Posted July 21, 20204 yr I have been looking for lithium ion batteries for a new solar setup for a while now. I'm about to buy some pylontech us3000 batteries, but the found the following batteries by clicking on a google add: http://solarenergyrsa.co.za/?product=12kwh-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warranty-last-chance-yeah-end-stock-clearance-sale-50-off Now I know if something is too good to be true, it probably is. So this is either a scam or stolen batteries, but I'm intrigued if is it's somehow legit. So who's gonna buy one and let us know how it went? 😂
July 21, 20204 yr Most likely a scam coz domain was registered only on creationdate : 2020/07/03 21:22:32 Normally if it sounds/looks too good to be true it usually is STAY AWAY!!
July 21, 20204 yr Scam! Man this guy just doesn't give up, keeps on registering new sites, similar names, same prices and same pictures. He must be successful in a way to continue like this..
July 21, 20204 yr If it is that Salanje guy... you shoud check out his father's fleet of cars. Snazzy! A real Benny-Hinn-esque guy by the looks of it...
July 21, 20204 yr I always check what address the site publish. If you can't see it on google maps then I am not using the site. This site has an address of "East London". That is to vague for google maps, so it's a NO GO.
July 21, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, Jaco de Jongh said: Scam! Man this guy just doesn't give up, keeps on registering new sites, similar names, same prices and same pictures. He must be successful in a way to continue like this.. Maybe the admins must put a pin/sticky somewhere...? The MO is generally the same. Batteries with 10 year warranties, at 50% discount as "end of year" (or "end of yeah" when they get sloppy with copy/paste), black friday, christmas, load shedding special, stock clearance sale. .... often with a nice big count down timer reminding you how close you are to losing out on the amazing special (or there are only 2 units left...). The scam likely has 2 components. Some people eventually get (clearly used/abused, identifying info removed, no manual etc.) batteries (? stolen cell tower leochs etc.?). The second component is probably letting people pay via EFT/cash deposit and just not supplying any goods. (gumtree/olx/facebook etc will have a number of these ads). They seem to do some homework and likely also take note of this particular forum since the newer site/s specifiy the "online only shop" part (too many people started asking about addresses and google street view?) so maybe the 50% discount will change to 45%....and the warehouse move to Askham... They also appear to have people posting positive reviews on hellopeter to counter negative comments. Many of the web addresses seem chosen to look like existing companies but with a strategic hyphen or variance of spelling that one will easily gloss over. Also they do not seem to bother to setup a mail account on the domain so fancy web domain only operates via gmail... From info in the public domain here is a sample with some unifying themes and some info that is useful to cross reference with google when the next add/site pops up.. solarenergyrsa.co.za/?product=12kwh-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warranty-last-chance-yeah-end-stock-clearance-sale-50-off +27 84-302-7691 +27-65-952-7634 +27 62-456-0626 Offices: East LondonDistribution warehouse: Johannesburg(Please Note that We are fully a Online Store) thewattsstore.co.za/product/12kwh-lithium-ion-package-discount-on-special-price-sale/ +27 62 456 0626 Beaconsfield Rd, Braelyn, East London, 5201Warehouses in Port Elizabeth, Cape Town, Durban & Johannesburg thesolarwarehouse.co.za/index.php/product/6-0kwh-tesvolt-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warranty-with-8000-cycles-days-life-now-month-end-50-off-clearance-sale/ +27 67 791 9959 +27 67 809 0979 Shipments from JHB/CPT Warehouse li-iontech.co.za/index.php/product/12kwh-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warranty-last-year-stock-clearance-sale-50-off/ +27 64 489 1208 Head office: Moffett Retail Park, Port Elizabeth, RSA Distribution Warehouses: JHB & PE solarcityrsa.co.za/index.php/product/6kwh-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warranty-last-chance-holiday-stock-clearance-sale-50-off/ +27 65 346 6447 +27 64 489 1208 JHB Wearhouse address: Items are Drop-shipped from suppliers in JHB, CPT & Germiston RSA thesolar-shop.co.za/index.php/product-category/lithium-ion-battery/ +27-65 952 7634 +27 68 011 2309 +27 61 363 4125 +27 79 763 3694 gooffthegrid.co.za +27 65 346 6447 +27 68 233 2924 +27 83 998 1589 Shipments from JHB/CPT sethsolar.co.za +27 83 854 5027 Wearhouse Address: Port Elizerberth thesolar-experts.co.za +27 64 489 1208 Head Office: Moffett Retail Park. Warehouse in JHB & PE solarstorage-experts.co.za/index.php/product/today-only-get-a-24kwh-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warrant +27 64 489 1208 solarguru-rsa.co.za +27 83 854 5027 solarmarket.co.za Edited July 21, 20204 yr by introverter Formatting
July 21, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, Jaco de Jongh said: Its him... Then absolutely check out (for those on FB) the page of his father. Our own Creflo Dollar (look it up if you don't know him).
July 21, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, introverter said: Maybe the admins must put a pin/sticky somewhere...? Great work on your post, I did a similar one way back including some of the info above.. He waits for a shortage in Lithiums or for load shedding and then hit with a new site, been doing that for about 2 years now... same MO every time I still have screenshots with his name next to a few of the mentioned domains above, now something has changed and that info can be hidden.
July 21, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, Jaco de Jongh said: now something has changed and that info can be hidden. The top registrar changed the privacy of the owner details. You now have to query the registrar where the domain is held to get any contact info. Edited July 21, 20204 yr by Louisvdw
July 21, 20204 yr 9 hours ago, ManiLow said: I have been looking for lithium ion batteries for a new solar setup for a while now. I'm about to buy some pylontech us3000 batteries, but the found the following batteries by clicking on a google add: http://solarenergyrsa.co.za/?product=12kwh-lithium-ion-batteries-with-10yrs-warranty-last-chance-yeah-end-stock-clearance-sale-50-off Now I know if something is too good to be true, it probably is. So this is either a scam or stolen batteries, but I'm intrigued if is it's somehow legit. So who's gonna buy one and let us know how it went? 😂 Wow 12kwh for only 31k. 😂😂
July 22, 20204 yr Here is a thought , span the begees out of those contact numbers. Keep the crook busy so he does not have time to scam ignorant/desperate people.
August 18, 20204 yr I wish I came here before ignorantly buying from the site. Interesting that I did get a brand new Inverter but the battery that was delivered was definitely used. When I contacted them initially they were more than willing for me to send it back for a new one but at that point I decided to keep what I had. I have subsequently tried to find a contact for Christiaan and James who have now disappeared and don't answer their numbers. An expensive lesson to be sure.
August 24, 20204 yr how did I find out that I was delivered with stolen batteries? Well, such batteries are not just simple devices with 2 terminals like car batteries. These are sophisticated systems with built in microprocessor controlled battery management system, with display, keyboard and communication connectors. On the front panel is a warning label: Read the instructions before use. But there was no instruction delivered with the batteries. Not thinking of any bad I visited the website of the manufacturer LEOCH in the attempt to download the instructions. But I could not find them. So I wrote a message to please send me the instructions. The next day I got an answer from the representative agent of LEOCH in South Africa, asking me the serial numbers of the batteries and from whom I bought them. I wondered what the serial numbers have to do with the instructions and I couldn't find any on the equipment. He then explained to me that such battery are stolen from cellphone installations since this type of batteries are exclusively sold to cellphone networks. And that these are shipped with instructions, with communication cable and a software cd. Then I found the following video on internet:https://youtu.be/P2gSsN8NlRg. I immediately requested the Installer JLS-Solar in Voorbay/Mosselbay to take them back and to reimburse the money. He reclaimed them the same day but with reimbursing it went not so fast. Finally he payed back in 2 parts up to R2000. I then bought and got delivered replacement from the official importer Averge Ltd. They are technically the same as the stolen ones but light gray instead black and with slightly changed front panel. Edited August 24, 20204 yr by Beat typing error
August 25, 20204 yr Hi All Came across this discussion and just wanted to ask if this looks like the same Scam? Again, Prices look to good to be true and the above links are dead so no way to compare. https://solarcycle.co.za/product-category/lithium-batteries/ Has anyone dealt with this crowed? Domain was also registered on the 3rd August. Thx.
August 25, 20204 yr 18 minutes ago, giggsie said: just wanted to ask if this looks like the same Scam? My 2 cents: Looks like all the other scams
August 26, 20204 yr 11 hours ago, giggsie said: Hi All Came across this discussion and just wanted to ask if this looks like the same Scam? Again, Prices look to good to be true and the above links are dead so no way to compare. https://solarcycle.co.za/product-category/lithium-batteries/ Has anyone dealt with this crowed? Domain was also registered on the 3rd August. Thx. Looks like a scam site. Also, I see http://solarenergyrsa.co.za is now dead.
August 26, 20204 yr On 2020/07/21 at 7:35 PM, francois said: Wow 12kwh for only 31k. 😂😂 I bought my 10KW for 30k last year (35k with shipping and taxes), so not in the realms of unfeasibility!
October 8, 20204 yr Just to add to your topic. Don't know if it is the same guy, but from what i have read here, it looks like it. It is called Green Sky Energy. Every thing is fishy. went through his about and policy pages. There were references to The Power Store. So I phoned The Power Store and spoke with Philip Hampton. He said he has not heard of these guys, but have dealt with something similar from guys in Cape Town. Their address in Wadeville is also fake. So stay away from them at https://www.greenskyenergy.co.za/
October 8, 20204 yr 1a. domain : greenskyenergy.co.za 1b. action : 1c. Registrar : 1API GmbH 2a. registrant : REDACTED 2b. registrantpostaladdress: REDACTED 2c. registrantstreetaddress: REDACTED 2d. amount : REDACTED 2e. paymenttype : REDACTED 2f. billingaccount : REDACTED 2g. billingemail : REDACTED 2i. invoiceaddress : REDACTED 2j. registrantphone : REDACTED 2k. registrantfax : REDACTED 2l. registrantemail : REDACTED 2n. vat : REDACTED 3b. cname : 3c. cnamesub1 : 3d. cnamesub2 : 3e. creationdate : 2020/08/12 20:58:28 There about us. Founded in 2013, Green Sky Energy, was launched as an E-Commerce website specializing in Solar Power and Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) products. We are based in South Africa. Our access to a huge amount of stock coupled with our 30+ years of experience and expert knowledge means that we are able to provide reliable, comprehensive advice and complete solutions. If you have any questions about any of our products or would like to discuss reliable power solutions for your home or workplace, please contact us. Ja right!!!
October 23, 20204 yr Can anyone advise if they've bought from solarcycle.co.za? Looks very similar to the previously reported dodgy website.
February 1, 20214 yr They have a new site up, same pictures as the old one https://www.bestsolarsolutions.co.za/ R50k for 24kw of battery
February 10, 20214 yr Not sure it's the same person, but another suspect offering: https://www.solar-express.co.za/ 12kWh battery for R30 495.00 Registered on 2021-01-20
February 10, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, Schnavel said: Not sure it's the same person, but another suspect offering: https://www.solar-express.co.za/ 12kWh battery for R30 495.00 Registered on 2021-01-20 Buy at own risk if it says Li Ion tech stay away
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