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The laptop is so slow and I want to upgrade the hard drive. What would be the compatible hard drive for this computer to operate in a faster mode.

Do I need to replace the battery? 

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In my experience, you go to Crucial's website and look up your model. They usually list exactly what you need to upgrade it. Sure, you could probably find better prices... but I have had bad experiences with trying to find RAM for a Dell machine. I'd rather pay a bit extra and get something that will definitely work.

I can't seem to find a model LG30 anywhere though. So good luck with that 🙂

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29 minutes ago, Querobin said:

The laptop is so slow and I want to upgrade the hard drive.

When a Pc / Laptop gets dog slow, I do two things:
1) If it is Windows 10 - nothing less than 8gigs of RAM.
2) And I swap the drive with a SSD drive, 250gig or so. The difference is immense.

The drive I remove , I get a casing for and that one becomes a USB external drive. 🙂

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5 minutes ago, Querobin said:

Is it possible to swap SSD drive for this kind of computer?

Can't say. Since I cannot find any mention of an LG30 model anywhere, I really cannot say. But generally speaking, that is one of the best upgrades you can do: Swap in an SSD, and upgrade the RAM as far as it will go. I did that to an old Dell machine (Latitude E6410, circa 2012-ish) and I tell you that machine is easily as fast and often more stable than my shiny new i5-8250u. Of course the benchmarks says something different... but just in practical use. The only thing the new one has on it is battery life (and that too receives a massive boost when you put in an SSD).

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4 minutes ago, Querobin said:

Is it possible to swap SSD drive for this kind of computer?

Am pretty sure you can yes. Open it up, or take to a computer shop, and let them confirm a SSD will fit.

It is easier than solar I promise.

Windows10 license follows the hardware now so you can easily re-install Win10 without a key, IF it is the same machine.

But if you do not want to reinstall everything, you can mirror copy the entire drive over to the new drive. Most IT guys have the software for that.

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1 minute ago, The Terrible Triplett said:

But if you do not want to reinstall everything, you can mirror copy the entire drive over to the new drive. Most IT guys have the software for that.

I have never had success with that method. Well, to be more accurate, I have never had success with that method on Windows. On Linux I tend to just make new file systems and copy the entire system over with cpio, then re-install grub (the bootloader) and off you go. With windows I just never have any luck. Then again... by now Windows probably hates me back in equal measure.

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1 minute ago, plonkster said:

I have never had success with that method.

I once did it via Teamviewer for a client in PE. We upgrade all his office Pc's drives with SSD's. He used a Skype video call so that I can tell him what to plug in where.

Step 1: Make sure the new drive is the exact same size.
Step 1.1: No problem if it is not. Simply shrink the existing partition till it will easily fit on the new drive. Need software for that, most are free.
Step 2: Now use say Acronis to mirror the drive - do it on a Pc, as the laptop cannot connect more than one drive.

And that's all folks. 

Never once has it not worked for me, as I did a LOT of them at one stage.

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21 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said:

Step 2: Now use say Acronis to mirror the drive - do it on a Pc, as the laptop cannot connect more than one drive.

That might have been the mistake I made. I was being way too much of a smartypants, attempting to raw-mirror it with dd.

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23 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said:

Step 1.1: No problem if it is not. Simply shrink the existing partition till it will easily fit on the new drive. Need software for that, most are free.

@Querobin @plonkster

After having cleaned the drive of all that is not needed, and having used Disk cleanup, using the option to clean up the system drive (tick all boxes to delete the files), check the disk space, add 50gigs in your head to it.

If you are lucky and there are no files stored at the end of the drive, go to Disk Management, right click on the drive and Shrink Volume. Shrink it to the number in your head. 🙂

The smaller the better / faster it will mirror with say Acronis (there are other software out there), just don't leave no space at all free. Windows will have an issue with that see.

 

Caveat: If one did not take Microsoft up on their free Win10 upgrade a few years ago, i.e. the OS is still Win8 or even Win7, it would most probably require a license key. 

If that is the case, MAYBE this still works if an upgrade to Win10 is needed: https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/

If that does not work, there is another trick, but not sure if I must post it here.

 

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@gabriel - keeping in the Windows line of things, I had to replace my 640XL LTE Windows phone. My OS expires Jun 2019.

Have only used Nokia phones my entire life, but this time I got a Rugged A8 AGM

I'm gatvol of phone dropping cracking the screen or it bends when it is in my pocket, cracking the Gorilla glass I have on. 

Have also been known to jump into water with my phone in my pocket. That problem is solved now too, being a IP68 design. 🙂 

And re. Android, I am seriously impressed, having been a Win10 NOKIA Phone supporter. The new Android OS and my Win10 Pc is combining like a glove. Windows explorer can read the SD card, Outlook365 works like a charm on it, Whatsapp still via my Pc and now SMS'es too ... even the Kindle reader on the phone is so much better.

Can now say that Windows 10 Phone OS ... bad bad move. Microsoft should never have gone for the phone market.

The ONLY issue I had, could not move my Whatsapp backup across. Not possible.

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2 hours ago, plonkster said:

I simply run unregistered copies of Windows 10. Sure... it shuts down every hour... but I rarely need it that long.

haha.

 

You can clone a Windows installation using CloneZilla too. works quite well. @Querobin if a pure SSD drive is too expensive, you can use a Seagate Firecuda sshd. They come with 8GB solid state flash to improve reads/writes. It doesn't make as big a difference at a pure SSD, but considering a 1TB SDD cost about R5K, and the 1TB SSHD about R1k, it's a good improvement at a fair price.

More RAM also makes a big difference.

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1 hour ago, SilverNodashi said:

1TB SDD cost about R5K

In my experience, all you do is get a say 250gig SSD, R650-R1000 depending on how hard you shop. Takealot had some good prices.

Any large data files, movies etc, store that on a stock standard external USB drive. The speed is in using the laptop for like Word, Excel, Email ... stuff like movies and photos are not going to work "faster". 🙂

And one does not need to buy the fastest latest one for R1.5k - R3k either. Any "older" cheaper make / model will work 100% faster on the older make machines as their ports don't tend to all have the later model 6gbps SATA option. They tend to have 3gbps SATA port.

And you won't see the difference on a R5k SSD versus a R1k SSD unless you REALLY work that machine maxed out all the time.

The other hardware then becomes the bottleneck.

2 hours ago, SilverNodashi said:

More RAM also makes a big difference.

True. And sometimes the operator.

My 80 year old Mother got more excited about me adding more memory than when she got a new SSD. See, SSD makes no difference playing them cards, only makes a difference how fast she got there. The memory however, made the cards flow better, she said. 🙂 

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4 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said:

In my experience, all you do is get a say 250gig SSD, R650-R1000 depending on how hard you shop. Takealot had some good prices.

Any large data files, movies etc, store that on a stock standard external USB drive. The speed is in using the laptop for like Word, Excel, Email ... stuff like movies and photos are not going to work "faster". 🙂

And one does not need to buy the fastest latest one for R1.5k - R3k either. Any "older" cheaper make / model will work 100% faster on the older make machines as their ports don't tend to all have the later model 6gbps SATA option. They tend to have 3gbps SATA port.

And you won't see the difference on a R5k SSD versus a R1k SSD unless you REALLY work that machine maxed out all the time.

The other hardware then becomes the bottleneck.

True. And sometimes the operator.

My 80 year old Mother got more excited about me adding more memory than when she got a new SSD. See, SSD makes no difference playing them cards, only makes a difference how fast she got there. The memory however, made the cards flow better, she said. 🙂 

Mileage differs...

 

My laptop has replaced my PC some years ago so it does everything from Email/Internet to watching movies (while away from home), playing games (my Games folder is like 480GB) doing development (this is where the Core i7 and SSD comes in very, very handy). I don't want to carry an external HDD with me, especially if I quickly want to show a client something or need to quickly do some work for a client while pulled off next to the road. For this reason my laptop has an m.2 SSD for quick  bootup and SSHD for storage of everything I often use.

My wife is a webmaster and photographer so her laptop is basically used the same, bar playing games. She would often take out the laptop while on long trips (sometimes 1hr+) and her portable HDD is always a nuisance. I am planning installing an m.2 SSD in her laptop as well as it takes several minutes to bootup, login to Windows and open commonly used apps. I can boot in and open Visual Studio within a minute or so.

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1 minute ago, SilverNodashi said:

Mileage differs...

Jip ... we have given the two sides.

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9 hours ago, The Terrible Triplett said:

could not move my Whatsapp backup across. Not possible.

indeed, whatsapp is a big problem with that, also on a dual sim... NEVER put whatsapp on 2 numbers, you cant merge it and will end up losing data

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Ssd’s are magic speedwise but note that stats on their reliability is not available.

And the models are forever evolving.

Don’t mistake, for example, Apple machine ssd’s as they are not the stuff you can put into an ordinary laptop.

That said, I’ve put a hybrid Samsung into my wife’s Hp laptop and it worked for years. It reduced the coffe making bootup time to seconds. Its now doing duty as a backup.

Toshiba has the reputation fo making the best hdd.

I’ve lost more hdds with the resultant loss in valuable info so make backups every day (to at least two disks). And never backup to a raid configuration! Also ensure that your hdd formats can be read reliably by data recovery programs. Apple is becoming (in)famous for playing around with this.

My Lacie photo backup hdd died recently (because of Apple??) and I replaced the Samsung hdd inside it with a Toshiba. No problems.

I f I have a business laptop I would replace the hdd, as a safety precaution, every two years.

 

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2 hours ago, Johandup said:

If I have a business laptop I would replace the hdd, as a safety precaution, every two years.

Flip side to that cost and labour fee, one can auto backup an entire drive once a week using something like Acronis. There are other software also, Acronis just has a few more features than just backups.

That entire drive backup then gets copied to 1 fixed and 2 alternate portable drives - portables to try and limit Ransomware spreading.

Doing it this way one can restore the entire drive backup as is to a new drive quick and easily, or worst case, can access the actual files inside that backup as a drive.

Only thing is, as with everything in life, drives backed up are NEED's, not WANT's as WANT's take a whole lot more space and time to backup. Like split the drive into C / D drives.
C = system and work files (< 250gig) and D (terabyte size) all that other stuff that is not that important to backup.
Discipline and ruthlessness being good qualities to have with the above. 🙂 

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4 hours ago, Johandup said:

never backup to a raid configuration

Unless it is RAID1 and it is what we call in the Linux world "software raid", which means you are using ordinary disks and the OS does the block allocation, not some fancy raid controller.

Why? Cause raid controllers can fail too, and when they do it becomes a single point of failure.

Whatever you do, don't use RAID0 or even RAID5 these days. RAID0 tends to stripe the data, so if you lose one disk you literally lose every other block of every single file on there... ie you lose everything.

These days RAID is more for speed than for redundancy. Though I must tell you that RAID1 has saved me many times. Software RAID1.

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2 hours ago, plonkster said:

Unless it is RAID1 and it is what we call in the Linux world "software raid", which means you are using ordinary disks and the OS does the block allocation, not some fancy raid controller.

Why? Cause raid controllers can fail too, and when they do it becomes a single point of failure.

Whatever you do, don't use RAID0 or even RAID5 these days. RAID0 tends to stripe the data, so if you lose one disk you literally lose every other block of every single file on there... ie you lose everything.

These days RAID is more for speed than for redundancy. Though I must tell you that RAID1 has saved me many times. Software RAID1.

Agreed. Don't use RAID5, or even RAID6 these days. Syncing 5TB drives on such big RAID arrays could take weeks, and if a second drive fail during the re-sync process you loose everything. 

RAID10 or even better ZFS is a good option to go for large RAID arrays as well. 

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44 minutes ago, SilverNodashi said:

RAID10

I did one of those about a decade ago, 4 drives. The read speeds were insane, each drive only does about a quarter of the work (you read half from the one pair, and the other half from the other pair, and those pairs split the work another time because it is striped).

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4 hours ago, plonkster said:

Whatever you do, don't use RAID0 or even RAID5 these days. RAID0 tends to stripe the data, so if you lose one disk you literally lose every other block of every single file on there... ie you lose everything.

Happened to me.

I lost 15 years of photos on a fancy Synergy 4 hdd server.

Copy everything to a 2 hdd docking station and clone the hdd.

Once bitten twice shy....

Oh, and the expensive Lacy also lost everything.

Google Photos is my new best friend  :-)

 

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