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Pylontech and 5KVA-48-PAR-A

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Hello folks,
Unfortunately, my almost two-year-old inverter broke and it was sent in for warranty.
Now I have connected my old inverters and unfortunately the US5000 went on alarm this morning with these settings:
05: USE
12: 48V
13:51V
26: 53.2V
27: 53.1V
29: 46V

and when I switch to setting 29 to 47.5 the diesel generator continues to operate at high load.

These batteries are connected 1x US5000 and 4x US2000C

I would be very happy about your tips and kind regards from Spain.

Edited by rafa2

16 hours ago, rafa2 said:

Hello folks,
Unfortunately, my almost two-year-old inverter broke and it was sent in for warranty.
Now I have connected my old inverters and unfortunately the US5000 went on alarm this morning with these settings:
05: USE
12: 48V
13:51V
26: 53.2V
27: 53.1V
29: 46V

and when I switch to setting 29 to 47.5 the diesel generator continues to operate at high load.

These batteries are connected 1x US5000 and 4x US2000C

I would be very happy about your tips and kind regards from Spain.

1st try with only the US5000 and keep the others disconnected. 

  • Author

So the settings are current, the dishwasher and the oven ran today without the generator starting:

02: 50V, 05:USE, 11: 50V, 12: 48V, 13: 51V 16: SNU, 26: 52.5V 27: 51.8V 29: 46,5V

 

Unfortunately, last night the generator started with these settings:

02: 80V, 05:USE, 11: 30V, 12: 48V, 13: 51V 16: SNU, 26: 53,21V 27: 53.1V 29: 47,5V

 

 

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Edited by rafa2

2 hours ago, rafa2 said:

So the settings are current, the dishwasher and the oven ran today without the generator starting:

02: 50V, 05:USE, 11: 50V, 12: 48V, 13: 51V 16: SNU, 26: 52.5V 27: 51.8V 29: 46,5V

 

Unfortunately, last night the generator started with these settings:

02: 80V, 05:USE, 11: 30V, 12: 48V, 13: 51V 16: SNU, 26: 53,21V 27: 53.1V 29: 47,5V

 

 

IMG_9517.jpeg

2nd lots of settings no 11 @ 30V is far too low. 

If I set the dip switches on the batteries like you have them now, I get no comms among batteries and the inverter when working on PYL mode.

Have you tried to set parameter 5 to PYL and let the system work with proper comms?

  • Author
4 minutes ago, Mauritius B said:

Have you tried to set parameter 5 to PYL and let the system work with proper comms?

This is an old inverter (approx. 2014 model), it only has the USE in 5. I hope that the shop will repair my new one quickly.

 

7 minutes ago, Mauritius B said:

If I set the dip switches on the batteries like you have them now, I get no comms among batteries and the inverter when working on PYL mode.

 

How are your dip switches set up?

 

Because I think the dip switches are compatible with my new Axpert 5KW 48v Mppt 80A/500V VM III...

5 minutes ago, rafa2 said:

This is an old inverter (approx. 2014 model), it only has the USE in 5. I hope that the shop will repair my new one quickly.

 

How are your dip switches set up?

 

Because I think the dip switches are compatible with my new Axpert 5KW 48v Mppt 80A/500V VM III...

Only master battery has DIP 1 on and the rest, all DIP's off

Edited by Mauritius B

On 2024/05/08 at 3:22 AM, rafa2 said:

Unfortunately, last night the generator started with these settings:

02: 80V, 05:USE, 11: 30V, 12: 48V, 13: 51V 16: SNU, 26: 53,21V 27: 53.1V 29: 47,5V

That's likely because there is an undocumented (by Voltronic) interaction between the cut-off voltage and setting 12 (the back  to grid battery voltage). The value used is the lower of these two values: setting 12, and setting 29 plus 2.0 V. This is lead acid thinking. To avoid this, you could use LFP flavoured fully patched firmware. If you tell me your exact model, or existing main (U1) firmware,  I can  post a link to suitable patched firmware. The LFP flavour of fully patched firmware reduces this "gap" to 0.5 V.

More detail in FAQ #2.

Even with setting 29 at 46.5 V, you are switching to grid/generator at a battery volage of 48.5 V. Factory firmware has no battery internal resistance compensation; patched firmware does. This feature that we call KettleKomp™ can dramatically reduce the switching to bypass mode (using the generator to run the loads). It's not perfect, but way better than factory firmware.

I assume that settings 02 and 11 are actually in amps (being total and utility/generator maximum charge current respectively).

Edited by Coulomb

On 2024/05/08 at 12:18 PM, rafa2 said:

This is an old inverter (approx. 2014 model), it only has the USE in 5. I hope that the shop will repair my new one quickly.

 

How are your dip switches set up?

 

Because I think the dip switches are compatible with my new Axpert 5KW 48v Mppt 80A/500V VM III...

Why only the US5000 went into alarm state? what about the US2000's? what was their SOC?

  • Author

first of all thank you!
I'm not sure why the US5000 went on alarm.
Unfortunately, one of the US2000Cs is swollen and no longer charges properly.

Since the US2000C was on the minus and the US5000 on the plus, I can imagine that this had something to do with the fact that the battery that was swollen only had one diode on in the morning, the remaining four or so.

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2 hours ago, Coulomb said:

If you tell me your exact model, or existing main (U1) firmware,  I can  post a link to suitable patched firmware. The LFP flavour of fully patched firmware reduces this "gap" to 0.5 V.

Are these photos enough for you? Because I have no communication with the inverter and solarpower because I don't know if I built this cable for my new inverter.
 

INVERTER CHARGER

Model Name: Inverter 5KVA-48-PAR-A

Color: Silver and Black

Operating Temperature Range: 0~ 55°C

92931608100959

Inverter Mode:

Rated Power: 5000VA/4000W

DC Input: 48VDC, 93A

AC Output: 230VAC, 50/60Hz, 22A, 1Ф AC Charger Mode:

AC Input: 230VAC, 50/60Hz, 35A, 1Ф DC Output: 54VDC,

Max. 60A, Default 30A

AC Output: 230VAC, 50/60Hz, 22A, 1Ф

Solar Charger Mode:

Rated Current: 80A

System Voltage: 48VDC

Min. Solar Voltage: 40VDC

Max. Solar Voltage (VOC): 145VDC

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IMG_9547.jpeg

IMG_9551.jpeg

This is the fully patched firmware that is compatible with your inverter; choose the LFP flavour:

https://forums.aeva.asn.au/viewtopic.php?p=70827#p70827

That light grey cable looks like the original cable that would have come with  the inverter. It's plugged into what looks like a USB to serial adapter. If it's a suitable one (not all of them work for unknown reasons), you should be fine for firmware updating.

SolarPower is for on-grid (grid interactive, Infini) models. WatchPower is the monitoring program for off-grid inverters such as yours.

 

  • Author

Thanks, I won't do the firmware update until I have the other inverter here at home, I don't want to sit here without power.

edit: The update worked, thanks again!

Edited by rafa2

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