Jakes Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Guys Though one. As some of you know, I've ridden some real corrugated road with sourcing the components for the solar system at our place. We've made progress lately with some of the components that were supplied, even if it was nearly 18 months after I paid for everything. In the package I initially bought was a decent battery pack. As the supplier was not able to supply, I had to buy another pack of batteries from a different supplier. Now there's a suggestion on the table: He supplies Jinko 305W non standard panels in stead of the batteries. I will get 18 panels. To break even, I would need to sell the panels at R7.60/W (Including VAT), collected by the buyer in CapeTown. What's your feeling, will I get the panels sold? Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Guys Though one. As some of you know, I've ridden some real corrugated road with sourcing the components for the solar system at our place. We've made progress lately with some of the components that were supplied, even if it was nearly 18 months after I paid for everything. In the package I initially bought was a decent battery pack. As the supplier was not able to supply, I had to buy another pack of batteries from a different supplier. Now there's a suggestion on the table: He supplies Jinko 305W non standard panels in stead of the batteries. I will get 18 panels. To break even, I would need to sell the panels at R7.60/W (Including VAT), collected by the buyer in CapeTown. What's your feeling, will I get the panels sold? Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Can you send us some technical specs for the panels... Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I have no idea if you'd be able to sell it as a single batch, the kind of guy with 40k to blow might not be interested in non-standard panels. If you're willing to sell in smaller quantities, I might take two :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hi Mark Here's the specs the supplier gives. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 I have no idea if you'd be able to sell it as a single batch, the kind of guy with 40k to blow might not be interested in non-standard panels. If you're willing to sell in smaller quantities, I might take two :-) Hi I Let's see what happens. I'd obviously like to sell all of them in one go, but I really don't know how this will pan out. Keep in touch. ___ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Jakes, are they in Cape Town? i will see what i can do, spec is similar to the rena 305's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes Mike. The supplier is in CapeTown. He's obviously convinced that these panels "sell like hotcakes". Let's see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetkit Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 So, what is so non standard about these panels? They 100% the same as the 300W units, so sell them as standard 300W panels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Non-standard usually means they were meant to be something larger, but upon testing they came up short. I don't see any problem with that, this kind of thing is done with computer CPUs all the time. They test them, and if they don't quite perform at the designed frequency, but they do at a lower one, they rebadge them at the lower frequency and sell them a little cheaper. I think there might be quite a bit of variation between panels though, so in a batch of 305W panels, the 305 might mean "at least 305W" while some panels in the batch might do significantly better. At the price that probably doesn't matter too much either, but when building long strings of series-panels it might affect you adversely... I don't know, it's just something I would expect based on common sense. Also, of course, they waste roof space, so don't use them if space is at a premium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNodashi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Non-standard usually means they were meant to be something larger, but upon testing they came up short. I don't see any problem with that, this kind of thing is done with computer CPUs all the time. They test them, and if they don't quite perform at the designed frequency, but they do at a lower one, they rebadge them at the lower frequency and sell them a little cheaper. I think there might be quite a bit of variation between panels though, so in a batch of 305W panels, the 305 might mean "at least 305W" while some panels in the batch might do significantly better. At the price that probably doesn't matter too much either, but when building long strings of series-panels it might affect you adversely... I don't know, it's just something I would expect based on common sense. Also, of course, they waste roof space, so don't use them if space is at a premium It also sometimes means there's some blemishes on the glass or silicone and it doesn't look so good. Most people won't notice it either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Once you have installed A-Grade panels on the roof, they have become B-visuals. That is what Tenesol used to label panels that have blemishes on them, yet they are 100% on standard ito power. I bought a few like that as the life expectancy was normal. However, as per Plonkster, if the panels are not producing as per spec, that is another thing to be wise of. How long will they last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 How long will the last? Well, I assume they will last the normal time, and degrade in the normal fashion. Assuming my computer CPU analogy holds up... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Apparently the non-standards (as per Tenesol) do not. Got that from a engineer at Tenesol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I suppose it depends on what is non-standard about it. If non-standard means "one or two of the silicon wavers in there aren't quite doing full power" then it's probably okay. If it means "well, this case really isn't properly put together and water and all sorts of gunk are going to get in and degrade it", then it is not okay. I always thought it was the former: upon final testing, it turns out a small impurity sneaked in, either into the glass, or some of the wavers... but it's all sealed in there in the usual fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Nope, lots of T&C's I discovered. Good test: Is there a warranty on the non-standard panel, if so, for how long? No warranty normally means they do not expect it to last, I figured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Here's from his website: All fully under warranty..... I have indicated to the supplier that I'm not really interested in the PV-deal. We'd have to wait and see if the money comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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