hoohloc Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Hi All, I'm looking for Maltese or Toy Poodle pup, please help. I'm in Jhb but willing to travel out of JHB to areas not greater than 200km from jhb central. If you know of any breeder in Gauten, please let me know Leshen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Energy-Jason Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Adopt don't shop YellowTapemeasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 13 hours ago, Energy-Jason said: Adopt don't shop I tried that with the local SPCA, they seem to go quick. Looks like they are in demand and my daughter has been nagging me for one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Is there any reason why you / your daughter chose those two breeds specifically? Have you considered temperament and maintenance of the pup (and soon to be adult dog)? Would a short-haired breed perhaps be lower maintenance (ticks and fleas, cleanliness and overall appearance)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Energy-Jason Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Poodles are like angry rotweillers in a poodle body Jay YellowTapemeasure and hoohloc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 2 hours ago, YellowTapemeasure said: Is there any reason why you / your daughter chose those two breeds specifically? Have you considered temperament and maintenance of the pup (and soon to be adult dog)? Would a short-haired breed perhaps be lower maintenance (ticks and fleas, cleanliness and overall appearance)? She saw one at the friend's place and she is adamant that she want one just like that too. I have a pitbull and we have a mobile grooming guys that comes every second week, so, maintenance will be covered. YellowTapemeasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Energy-Jason said: Poodles are like angry rotweillers in a poodle body Jay Yep, they can be somewhat temperamental, and very beautiful when in show-dog condition. Very few people actually know, understand and are prepared to go through the rigmarole and cost involved with keeping them that way. I take my hat off to poodle owners, they clearly invest a great deal of time, money and energy into keeping their dogs in tip-top condition, thumbing their noses at the second law of thermodynamics. Personally, if I were looking at a small dog as a companion for a child, I would prefer a short-haired low-maintenance breed like a Pug, Boston Terrier, French Bulldog, or Dachshund. If longer hair were a must, then the West Highland Terrier would be a consideration. Energy-Jason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 2 hours ago, Energy-Jason said: Poodles are like angry rotweillers in a poodle body Jay Not the big poodle, she wants a small one. The toy Pom, maltese or miniature poodle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, hoohloc said: She saw one at the friend's place and she is adamant that she want one just like that too. I have a pitbull and we have a mobile grooming guys that comes every second week, so, maintenance will be covered. That's quite understandable, they are really great dogs! Has she seen what a West Highland Terrier looks like though? IMHO even cuter and a more even temperament, although far rarer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 5 minutes ago, hoohloc said: She saw one at the friend's place and she is adamant that she want one just like that too. I have a pitbull and we have a mobile grooming guys that comes every second week, so, maintenance will be covered. You will need something that will be subservient to the pitbull though, so anything with "terrier" in it''s name would probably be unsuitable. hoohloc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 8 minutes ago, YellowTapemeasure said: Yep, they can be somewhat temperamental, and very beautiful when in show-dog condition. Very few people actually know, understand and are prepared to go through the rigmarole and cost involved with keeping them that way. I take my hat off to poodle owners, they clearly invest a great deal of time, money and energy into keeping their dogs in tip-top condition, thumbing their noses at the second law of thermodynamics. Personally, if I were looking at a small dog as a companion for a child, I would prefer a short-haired low-maintenance breed like a Pug, Boston Terrier, French Bulldog, or Dachshund. If longer hair were a must, then the West Highland Terrier would be a consideration. Thanks for the advise, let me check the west Highlander Terrier. I think she just want a hair that she can brush, she is not happy with the pitbull because of the short hair YellowTapemeasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, hoohloc said: Thanks for the advise, let me check the west Highlander Terrier. I think she just want a hair that she can brush, she is not happy with the pitbull because of the short hair Ah, so she actually wants to groom the dog? That's so cool. And very "girly" I honestly think that your biggest problem would be socialisation with the pitbull. You would need to be very careful, otherwise the vet / hospitalisation bills would mount up. You need a dog that isn't cheeky and that submits to the Pitbull, and is happy to fulfill a subservient role in the pack. So IMHO basically all terriers are out, because they think that they are huge even when they are small. Edited June 27 by YellowTapemeasure hoohloc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 3 minutes ago, YellowTapemeasure said: Ah, so she actually wants to groom the dog? That's so cool. And very "girly" I honestly think that your biggest problem would be socialisation with the pitbull. You would need to be very careful, otherwise the vet / hospitalisation bills would mount up. You need a dog that isn't cheeky and that submits to the Pitbull, and is happy to fulfill a subservient role in the pack. So IMHO basically all terriers are out, because they think that they are huge even when they are small. Eish! that is my biggest worry, thought the smaller they are the more submissive and will get along with the pitbull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, hoohloc said: Eish! that is my biggest worry, thought the smaller they are the more submissive and will get along with the pitbull. It depends. Terriers have huge hearts, extremely courageous. Jack Russells have been known to dominate German Shepherds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaal Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, hoohloc said: Thanks for the advise, let me check the west Highlander Terrier. I think she just want a hair that she can brush, she is not happy with the pitbull because of the short hair What would happen to the dog if the "craze/phase" passes? I'm personally not a very big fan of giving pets as gifts because I saw it so many times that the pet become somebody else's responsibility after a while. But ja that is just me. Edited June 27 by Vaal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, Vaal said: What would happen to the dog if the "craze/phase" passes? I'm personally not a very big fan of giving pets as gifts because I saw it so many times that the pet become somebody else's responsibility after a while. But ja that is just me. Thought about that already and since we already have one dog, the second one will not a problem. As long as they get along, I don't want them to fight YellowTapemeasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 6 minutes ago, YellowTapemeasure said: It depends. Terriers have huge hearts, extremely courageous. Jack Russells have been known to dominate German Shepherds. Just checked the West Highlander terrier, it look great. She will not see the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 35 minutes ago, hoohloc said: Just checked the West Highlander terrier, it look great. She will not see the difference Yep, they are both very cute. Huge difference in coat (and maintenance) though, and temperament. A Maltese's coat is soft throughout, a Westie has two different coats, thick wiry waterproof coat on top, and soft coat underneath. It's easier to maintain and a far more resilient dog, especially outside, bred to be a rat / mole catcher, that's why it has such a sturdy tail, when it gets stuck in a hole, you can pull it out by its tail. The only issue remains the socialisation with your current terrier. Either way, a spayed female perhaps? Assuming of course that you have a fixed male pitbull? Edited June 27 by YellowTapemeasure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohloc Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 6 minutes ago, YellowTapemeasure said: Yep, they are both very cute. Huge difference in coat (and maintenance) though, and temperament. A Maltese's coat is soft throughout, a Westie has two different coats, thick wiry waterproof coat on top, and soft coat underneath. It's easier to maintain and a far more resilient dog, especially outside, bred to be a rat / mole catcher, that's why it has such a sturdy tail, when it gets stuck in a hole, you can pull it out by its tail. The only issue remains the socialisation with your current terrier. Either way, a spayed female perhaps? Assuming of course that you have a fixed male pitbull? Yep,male pittie. That means I need to get a female Westie? I did well to come here before getting another dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowTapemeasure Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, hoohloc said: Yep,male pittie. That means I need to get a female Westie? I did well to come here before getting another dog It's not a panacea, so no guarantee that it will work, but generally dogs will socialise far easier and better if they are of the opposite sex (and being fixed is pretty non-negotiable), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) On 2021/06/26 at 4:30 PM, hoohloc said: Hi All, I'm looking for Maltese or Toy Poodle pup, please help. I'm in Jhb but willing to travel out of JHB to areas not greater than 200km from jhb central. If you know of any breeder in Gauten, please let me know If you're in Gauteng, consider the Woodrock shelter near Centurion. They are somehow very well funded, have great volunteer staff and you will 1) give a new home to a dog that lost a home 2) get a healthy, well cared for animal. Take your current dog. They will put the two in a secure area, with observers, to see how they get on. They also like to do the same with you, see if the dog shows signs of taking to you or particularly not liking you. https://woodrockanimalrescue.co.za/ or see their facebook page. NB! They reserve the right to inspect your property before handing the dog over. Edited June 28 by Bobster hoohloc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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