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This company provides Solar Monitoring software. It used to be called ICC. They have complete rewritten the software and all I can say is, Wow! This is the best I have seen around. Especially the Web Interface. It is now called SMH - Solar Management Hub. Well done to Johan and Jaco and your team for all your dedication and EXCELLENT service you provide! Even late at night and over weekends.

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I have noted with the Centurion SMH software there is a error in the reading of my solar PV watts and load watts, My solar PV watt out put is around 50 watts lower than the load watts being used without grid or batteries being used. Unless my inverter creates energy out of nothing, there is a calibration error.

Does anyone have a way to re-set the calibration on a Axpert Max 7.2 inverter to correct this?

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On 2021/12/14 at 9:17 PM, Nitrious said:

It's now called icm, and sold by icc

It is an improvement over icc however, worth the upgrade imo, I'm using it now

Hi Nitrios. That is not correct. Centurion Solar used to partnet with Manie selling ICC. In the context of Centurion Solar ICC is now SMH as CS is no longer selling or supporting ICC). The core of ICC was developed by me back in 2015 / 2016. It used to be AICC for Windows. Those who are on the forum from back then will know I started the software AICC for Windows that used the Victron battery monitor to switch the modes of the Axpert inverter. I also used EMONcms for cloud charting. Manie and I then partnered up to port my AICC code to the Raspberry Pi using Lazarus. Long story short is that my and Manie's path seperated, there is currently a court case on the go about that so I am not going to say much more about that. But the fact that Manie is now again traying to say that SMH (That I developed from scratch) is his software is just more proof what he is up to.  So SMH is SMH and not ICM.

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On 2021/12/25 at 3:03 PM, Venom said:

I have noted with the Centurion SMH software there is a error in the reading of my solar PV watts and load watts, My solar PV watt out put is around 50 watts lower than the load watts being used without grid or batteries being used. Unless my inverter creates energy out of nothing, there is a calibration error.

Does anyone have a way to re-set the calibration on a Axpert Max 7.2 inverter to correct this?

Hi Venom. The watts are calculated by the values that the inverter gives me. I picked up over the years that it can be out by 5 to 10%. This is normal operation and accepted as even other meters will state it can be out by 5 - 10%. You are welcome contact the help desk and they will have a look at your system to double check. If you do not get an anwer from them plase let me know ASAP via PM. I currently use a Goodwe Inverter and this inverter also shows some values not to be correct if I compare it with other external meters.

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Thank you for your reply and assistance, I will contact the guys at SMH support. I rely hope you guys get a solution to your difference and ownership of the software, life is to short to spend energy on the negative. Your software is great and time should be spent on making it better and not making lawyers wealthy. 

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RoboTinkerBot, if I may, please advise if I have two 7.2 kW inverters running off two Poltech US3000B batteries, how do I limit the inverters to only use a max of 6 kW of battery power should the grid fail at night and only battery power is available? I am worried that the two inverters will try to draw 7.2 kW's each from the batteries resulting in the batteries tripping on overload or over current resulting in my system shutting down and leaving me in the dark anyway. 1 am using the SMH software to manage my two inverters. I believe the hardware solution would be installing a contactor that will drop non essential equipment when there is no grid power, or alternatively installing more batteries.

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19 hours ago, RoboTinkerBot said:

Hi Nitrios. That is not correct. Centurion Solar used to partnet with Manie selling ICC. In the context of Centurion Solar ICC is now SMH as CS is no longer selling or supporting ICC). The core of ICC was developed by me back in 2015 / 2016. It used to be AICC for Windows. Those who are on the forum from back then will know I started the software AICC for Windows that used the Victron battery monitor to switch the modes of the Axpert inverter. I also used EMONcms for cloud charting. Manie and I then partnered up to port my AICC code to the Raspberry Pi using Lazarus. Long story short is that my and Manie's path seperated, there is currently a court case on the go about that so I am not going to say much more about that. But the fact that Manie is now again traying to say that SMH (That I developed from scratch) is his software is just more proof what he is up to.  So SMH is SMH and not ICM.

My apologies, was just going on what's on the website (see below), no intention of stepping on anyone's toes. I'm sorry you guys had a falling out, it happens, but doesn't usually mean it cant be sorted out amicably.

Court cases tend to favour the party with the most money to throw at the situation rather than the guilty party or even justice, and in the end only the lawyers make money.

As I'm currently working as a dev myself, your situation resonates all to well, and happens easily if your not careful. If by some chance icm is smh, well done, its really nice.

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17 hours ago, Venom said:

RoboTinkerBot, if I may, please advise if I have two 7.2 kW inverters running off two Poltech US3000B batteries, how do I limit the inverters to only use a max of 6 kW of battery power should the grid fail at night and only battery power is available? I am worried that the two inverters will try to draw 7.2 kW's each from the batteries resulting in the batteries tripping on overload or over current resulting in my system shutting down and leaving me in the dark anyway. 1 am using the SMH software to manage my two inverters. I believe the hardware solution would be installing a contactor that will drop non essential equipment when there is no grid power, or alternatively installing more batteries.

That is why we have the home automation side. The data is fed into home automation systems like Home Assistant or OpenHab where you can use the data to switch loads on and off as required based on the rules you put in place to safeguard your system. The support people will help you with that also. Just bear in mind that it is silly season, so they are closed at the moment for normal calls. In the new year they will be back helping. That is why you pay the subscription as we are not able to give you lifelong support on a once off payment. Subscription goes towards the support, cloud hosting and development of new features as can been seen in the new Mobile App we took live in version 2.

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1 hour ago, Nitrious said:

My apologies, was just going on what's on the website (see below), no intention of stepping on anyone's toes. I'm sorry you guys had a falling out, it happens, but doesn't usually mean it cant be sorted out amicably.

Court cases tend to favour the party with the most money to throw at the situation rather than the guilty party or even justice, and in the end only the lawyers make money.

As I'm currently working as a dev myself, your situation resonates all to well, and happens easily if your not careful. If by some chance icm is smh, well done, its really nice.

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No worries. I just thought I would correct that as Manie has nothing to do with SMH so not sure how he can claim that SMH is now ICM? Centurion Solar used to sell and support ICC. Manie did the same to Johan that he did to me by going back on his word, and their paths also separated about 2.5 years ago. Manie tried to sue Johan for some post he made on the forum, I was asked to testify that what Manie was saying is all lies (I have all the WhatsApp’s and Skype messages to proof my statements). That case has also not been concluded so I cannot talk about it.

So then Johan and I decided to partner up and build new software from scratch that did not include any of the legacy AICC or ICC code. New USB driver etc. It took me 2 years to build it all and that is SMH. In the context of Centurion Solar ICC is now SMH as CS now only sells and supports SMH not ICC. SMH is the new product the I developed, and CS is supporting. Manie seems to fail to understand that concept. I agree about the lawyers make the money. I did not say anything for years and I removed myself from all Solar forums as it consumed me and made me a bad person.

I decided to join PF again not to start any fights, just to state what is going on as it seems most people don’t know.

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17 minutes ago, RoboTinkerBot said:

No worries. I just thought I would correct that as Manie has nothing to do with SMH so not sure how he can claim that SMH is now ICM? 

I havent the faintest clue, again didnt mean to add fuel to what seems to be a raging fire, just an innocent bystander here.

when I looked at the time requirements to build a solution for myself, vs getting one off the shelf, the once off fee made sense, and I went with what worked immediately. That's really the extent of matters from my end.

At least you've done the right thing in my view, make your own solution (again) and get it out there, court cases wont help lost revenue and will possibly dig that pit even deeper, but getting a solution out there that works and gains market share and momentum surely will. 

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13 minutes ago, Venom said:

RoboTinker, just to clear this up you are representing SMH and trading on this site https://centurionsolar.co.za/, if yes what software is available from you to run the system in conjunction with Sonoff smart controls?

Yes. I write the software.

I believe in working smarter not harder. We provide feeds for home automation systems like https://www.home-assistant.io/. But contact the support people and they will sort you out. That is what you pay for in the end of the day.

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Just for anyone else having problems I sent a mail to SMH about mixing US3000C and US3000B batteries see question and answer below.

Question to SMH

I have connected 1 x new Pylontech US3000C as the master battery and 2 x US3000B in one battery bank. On SMH I have the batteries selected as Pylontech BMS. Under the battery monitoring section all three the batteries are showing 0 cycles and the serial numbers are missing for the US3000B batteries. Prior to me adding the US3000C battery both my B batteries had 5 cycles recorded. What do I need to do to get the batteries displaying correctly under the Battery section on SMH?

Reply from SMH

The master battery does the comms to the other ones, and also controls the reporting of the Serial numbers, etc.  We have contacted Pylontech though as the C version of the batteries are not reporting correctly (as you found out), so we are awaiting their reply to find out if there is a firmware update that needs to happen on the B version, or if there are new commands in the C version that we need to execute to get all the data we (and you) require.  As soon as we hear back from them we will take it from there.  Hopefully there are just new commands for the C version and not a firmware update that’s required on the B versions

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