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idiot-ranch reacted to SolarConvert in Narada NPFC Tian Power BMS protocolHi all, I thought I would document my findings of the Tian Power BMS protocol used in my Narada 48NPFC100 battery whilst I was attempting to establish why it did not work with my Deye inverter. Of note is that the exact same battery model is known to use a Shinwa BMS as well, but mine uses a Tian Power one, specifically TP-ND1530.
Firstly I wanted to thank @shanghailoz for documenting the same thing here for the Revov batteries, which also use a Tian Power BMS, without which I would have struggled a lot more. Also thank you @zivva for pointing me in the right direction for the BMS manufacturer.
I also peeked at the code of the BMS software to decipher how certain fields are calculated.
The protocol follows.
Preamble
Firstly, all data sent appears to have a header, body and CRC check. For example:
7e 01 01 00 fe 0d The first byte is either 7c or 7e according to the software. In my case it is always 7e.
The second byte is the DIP switch setting on the battery and corresponds to the following in the software:
The third byte is the function code, which you will see several examples of below, such as "read data", "read BMS time", "read BMS version", "read serial number".
The fourth byte is the length of the payload supplied as part of the function call - most "read" type functions will not include a payload and this parameter will be 00, but the "write" functions would have a payload. If there is a payload, it would follow this byte.
The last two bytes are the CRC check.
The response is structured in a similar way:
7e 01 01 56 ... f2 0d The first three bytes are an echo of what the request was, the fourth byte indicates the response length followed by the response bytes, and finally we have the CRC check.
Function 1 - Read data
7e 01 01 00 fe 0d This allows you to read almost everything that is displayed on the first tab of the BMS software.
The response will look as follows:
7e 01 01 56 01 0f 0c e1 0c e2 0c e2 0c e3 0c e3 0c e5 0c e5 0c e4 0c e4 0c e4 0c e2 0c e2 0c e2 0c e3 0c e5 02 01 75 30 03 01 16 74 04 01 27 10 05 06 00 44 00 45 00 45 00 44 40 46 20 45 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 01 00 81 08 01 13 54 09 01 27 10 0a 01 00 00 f2 0d The response body for this function is a data map structured as follows: data entry index, number of high/low byte pairs, the high/low byte pairs.
Data 1 - Cell count and cell voltages
01 0f 0c e1 0c e2 0c e2 0c e3 0c e3 0c e5 0c e5 0c e4 0c e4 0c e4 0c e2 0c e2 0c e2 0c e3 0c e5 The second byte is the number of cells - this is 15 for a 15 cell battery like mine or 16 cells for Revov. The individual cell voltages follow as high/low pairs which need to be divided by 1000, for example, 0ce1 maps to 3297 which means 3.297V. Since my battery has 15 cells, there would be 15 individual cell voltages.
Data 2 - Current
02 01 75 30 This is a tricky one. 7530 hex maps to 30000 decimal. The BMS software works it out as:
current_in_amps = (30000 - value_of_item_2) / 100 This item therefore has an offset of 30000 and a scaling factor of 0.01. So when the charge current is 0, the BMS will return 30000, therefore (30000 - 30000) / 100 = 0 amps. When the charge current is 10 amps, the BMS would return 29000, therefore (30000 - 29000) / 100 = 10 amps. When the charge current is -10 amps, the BMS would return 31000, therefore (30000 - 31000) / 100 = -10 amps. Furthermore, charge/discharge time remaining is calculated based on max battery capacity in amps divided by current in amps.
Data 3 - Remaining capacity
03 01 16 74 This value needs to be divided by 100 to get Ah. In this case I have 1674 hex or 5748 decimal, so 57.48Ah left of my 100Ah battery, therefore the SOC is 57.48%.
Data 4 - Full capacity
04 01 27 10 Divide by 100 to get full battery capacity in Ah. 2710 in hex is 10000 in decimal, so I have a 100Ah battery.
Data 5 - Temperatures
05 06 00 44 00 45 00 45 00 44 40 46 20 45 In my case there are 6 temperatures corresponding to the following screenshot:
In the Revovs the number of temperatures listed are different. The last two appear to be important ones.
Each temperature value is calculated as:
temp_value = (bms_temp_value & 0xFF) - 50 Data 6 - Alarm bits
06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 These can be mapped to (a) very specific alarm code(s). I can get these if there is interest.
Data 7 - Cycles
07 01 00 81 This represents the number of cycles of the battery, so 129 in my case.
Data 8 - Voltage
08 01 13 54 The total voltage of the battery. The number needs to be divided by 100, so 49.48V in my case.
Data 9 - State of Health
09 01 27 10 The SOH of the battery. Needs to be divided by 100, so 100% in my case.
Data 10 - ALM bytes
0a 01 00 00 This corresponds to the ALM light on the battery and what it means.
Function 67 - Read protection parameters
Request:
7e 01 43 00 fe 0d Response:
7e 01 43 94 00 02 0e 10 01 02 03 e8 02 02 0d ac 03 02 0a f0 04 02 03 e8 05 02 0c 1c 06 02 15 4a 07 02 03 e8 08 02 14 c8 09 02 11 94 0a 02 03 e8 0b 02 13 88 0c 02 1f 40 0d 02 03 e8 0e 02 1b 58 0f 02 1f 40 10 02 03 e8 11 02 1b 58 12 02 00 69 13 02 0f a0 14 02 00 5f 15 02 00 32 16 02 0f a0 17 02 00 3c 18 02 00 69 19 02 0f a0 1a 02 00 5f 1b 02 00 32 1c 02 0f a0 1d 02 00 3c 1e 02 00 8c 1f 02 0f a0 20 02 00 87 21 02 00 0a 22 02 00 0f 23 02 03 20 24 02 01 f4 de 0d This is another data map which ultimately gets translated into the following, with the necessary scaling factors applied:
{ "cell_ov_start": 3.6, "cell_ov_delay": 1000, "cell_ov_stop": 3.5, "cell_uv_start": 2.8, "cell_uv_delay": 1000, "cell_uv_stop": 3.1, "pack_ov_start": 54.5, "pack_ov_delay": 1000, "pack_ov_stop": 53.2, "pack_uv_start": 45.0, "pack_uv_delay": 1000, "pack_uv_stop": 50.0, "charge_oc_start": 80.0, "charge_oc_delay": 1000, "charge_oc_stop": 70.0, "discharge_oc_start": 80.0, "discharge_oc_delay": 1000, "discharge_oc_stop": 70.0, "cell_ot_start": 55, "cell_ot_delay": 4000, "cell_ot_stop": 45, "cell_ut_start": 0, "cell_ut_delay": 4000, "cell_ut_stop": 10, "env_ot_start": 55, "env_ot_delay": 4000, "env_ot_stop": 45, "env_ut_start": 0, "env_ut_delay": 4000, "env_ut_stop": 10, "mos_ot_start": 90, "mos_ot_delay": 4000, "mos_ot_stop": 85, "capacity_low_start": 10, "capacity_low_stop": 15, "volt_diff_start": 800, "volt_diff_stop": 500 }
Function 51 - Read BMS version
The request is as follows:
7e 01 33 00 fe 0d The response body is a string, such as:
7e 01 33 18 54 50 2d 4e 44 31 35 33 30 2d 31 35 53 31 30 30 41 2d 56 31 2e 30 2e 30 2e 0d Which in my case maps to: TP-ND1530-15S100A-V1.0.0
Function 66 - Read PCB barcode
Request:
7e 01 42 00 fc 0d Response body is a string as above.
Function 220 - Read serial number
Request:
7e 01 dc 03 06 00 00 c2 0d Response body is a string as above.
Function 69 - Read BMS time
Request:
7e 01 45 00 fe 0d Response:
7e 01 45 06 16 07 08 14 3b 16 48 0d To convert the above to a valid date time, prepend "20" and then concatenate the rest of the bytes which represent yy, MM, dd, hh, mm, ss, so in the above example: 2022-07-08 20:59:22.
There are many "write"-type functions too but I would be wary of using those.
I hope the above is useful to someone. I will post more useful ones if I find any.