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P1 is import what you use from the City P2 is export to the grid/ Each ling must be Pimport = P1 / 4 Pexport =P2/4 The City do 4 readings per Hr so that value you have to divide by 4

Why would you do that?

Summer month we are generating more than 4MW per month. 15KW Batt so import = 0. My view now is does not matter who we are paying Gov or China is the same. The diffs is no load shedding, no increase and most important no theft for those who like stealing ... Savings for us are huge more than R8K per Month 1 x 10KW dual 3KW 7KW grid tied 1 x 20KW 3 phase grid tied 1 x 7 KW 1 phase grid tied 1 x 3k3KW 1 phase grid tied 1 x 10KW grid tied new inverter 52 PV panels 😇 New stuff is now fully sponsored. 😇

Baie braaf!!!

AND THE FULL ACCOUNT PLUS EXTRAS PAID BY SOLAR: Our export for November was 3112.6 KW @ R 1.17 = R 3645.82 income. a Saving of more than R 72 000 per year. We have a RO device Account R @ 0.0063440 R 4,145,000.00 0.006344 R 26,295.88 Add Disc R 285,000.00 R 1,808.04 12 R 24,487.84 Rates per Month R 2,040.65 Rubish R 166.26 Water R 0.00 Electricty R-2,471.22 R-264.31

Another small upgrade: 😇 Nov R Flux Home Use Import Kwhr Export Kwhr R Import R Export Nett R X.xx 1 0.0 -83.607 13.857 -97.464 R 41.39 R-114.16 R-72.77 2 0.0 -75.806 13.094 -88.900 R 39.11 R-104.13 R-65.02 3 0.0 -74.751 14.706 -89.457 R 43.93 R-104.78 R-60.85 4 0.0 -50.423 18.094 -68.517 R 54.05 R-80.25 R-26.21 5 0.0 -84.409 13.042 -97.451 R 38.96 R-114.14 R-75.19 6 0.0 -88.752 15.215 -103.967 R 45.45 R-121.78 R-76.33 7 0.0 -76.397 12.607 -89.004 R 37.66 R-104.25 R-66.59 8 0.0 -40.436 14.313 -54.749 R 42.75 R-64.13 R-21.37 9 0.0 -104.787 11.258 -116.045 R 33.63 R-135.92 R-102.30 10 0.0 -64.487 11.401 -75.888 R 34.05 R-88.89 R-54.83 11 0.0 -108.891 12.061 -120.952 R 36.03 R-141.67 R-105.64 12 0.0 -106.286 13.783 -120.069 R 41.17 R-140.64 R-99.47 13 0.0 -110.551 13.569 -124.120 R 40.53 R-145.38 R-104.85 14 0.0 -105.865 14.067 -119.932 R 42.02 R-140.48 R-98.46 15 0.0 -105.865 14.067 -119.932 R 42.02 R-140.48 R-98.46 16 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 17 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 18 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 19 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 20 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 21 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 22 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 23 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 24 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 25 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 26 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 27 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 28 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 29 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 30 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 31 0.0 0.000 0.000 0.000 R 0.00 R 0.00 R 0.00 -1485.689 0.000 -1,281.313 205.134 -1,486.447 R 612.74 R-1,741.08 R-1,128.34

Date Import Kwh Export Kwh Kw HrDiff Actual Cost Oct 23 520.794 1,256.083 -735.289 R-9.37 Nov 23 452.996 1,192.301 -739.305 R-119.85 'Dec 23 381.076 1,833.817 -1,452.741 R-1,047.75 Jan 24 342.252 1,967.088 -1,624.836 R-1,262.74 Feb 24 365.277 1,735.952 -1,370.675 R-982.36 March 24 441.691 1,724.778 -1,283.087 R-811.63 Apr 24 520.181 1,138.854 -618.673 R-58.89 May 24 637.512 962.096 -324.584 R 424.55 June 24 644.566 792.312 -147.746 R 604.23 Jul 24 720.307 622.671 97.636 R 1,478.77 Aug 24 643.613 1,111.589 -467.976 R 620.47 Sep 24 500.282 1,897.804 -1,397.522 R-728.56 Oct 24 451.130 2,628.300 -2,177.170 R-1,731.00 Kwhr pushed back since Oct 2023 18,863.645 This month: Oct R Flux Home Use Import Kwhr Export Kwhr R Import R Export Nett R X.xx 1 0.0 -72.419 18.462 -90.881 R 55.15 R-106.45 R-51.30 2 0.0 -62.486 14.421 -76.907 R 43.08 R-90.08 R-47.01 3 0.0 -75.594 13.935 -89.529 R 41.62 R-104.87 R-63.24 4 0.0 -72.549 13.380 -85.929 R 39.97 R-100.65 R-60.68 5 0.0 -71.721 14.558 -86.279 R 43.48 R-101.06 R-57.57 6 0.0 -68.544 12.712 -81.256 R 37.97 R-95.18 R-57.20 7 0.0 -68.306 14.400 -82.706 R 43.01 R-96.87 R-53.86 0.000 -491.619 101.868 -593.487 R 304.28 R-695.15 R-390.87 Push back average per day 84.78 Kw or R99.31

'n Goeie begryper het 'n halwe woord nodig. Ek kan nier help as mense nie somme kan maak nie en aanvaar dat almal tegnies gestremd is nie Basies is ek te lui om detail te bespreek. Wat belangrik is is 'n Goeie begryper het 'n halwe woord nodig. As mense nie die berekeninge kan verstaan nie is ek nie daar om dit te leer nie. Ek argumenteer nie ek wys net uit hoe beperk mense se denke is Let me add one sentence. Show me where any person could prove the calculations wrong, the installation cost or where any entity had legal issue. Surely if no person can proof the calculations wrong and the fact that you can see the impact on my account then you must be very dumb to argue against facts. My calculations are good, my savings are terrific, my expansion on solar is what every one tell me can't be done yet I show it on my account and then you say I am arguing. Meditate on it and then you consider who needs to be convinced. I assure you not me. I smile all the way and the people I have guided what to do so do they and frankly as for the rest you are most welcome to support Eskom and the corrupt.

Oh dear me that has been recalled. Then mayor Lewis had a long speech on this. Since then things changed. The COCT is on the fore front with this and people has a difficulty to understand what is happening. I think the account I showed one can clearly see that I generate more than 2MW per month. That NRS guide line is of no value. When I have the next 15KW working properly in the summer I will send you the graphs. I am 100% in the frame work set by President Ramaphosa and Mayor Lewis. The cash back of R15K since Nov I think is proof of it. I think the challenge is going to come when I want to exceed 300A push back. 😇

Just so you know and understand I design and develop control system for a living. So I will stress about power if I get to 300KW. Below that its lego blocks.

3 phase 100A per phase. I thought for those that understand the maths it would have been commonsense.

We have been through this already on this site. So help me with my maths. Help me understand what am I calculating wrong. I had 16KW in Jan produced about 2MW feedback. Do understand 16KW inverter or 16000/240 = 66Amps AC or alternating current NOT DC. Now I am busy with another 14KW inverter power that means I will add another +/- 2MW monthly or +/- 14000/240 = 58Amps. Then when my building is complete I will add another 30KW or 30000/240 = 124 Amps. Thus in summer if I understand maths correctly 32000 + 30000 = 62 KW or 62000/240 = 258 Amps. January I generated about 110KW per day of which +/- 70KW per day was pushed back. Some day's more some day's less depending on the sun. Where is my calculations wrong? Can you please help me with my maths that I can understand what I am calculating incorrectly. I currently have more than 40 panels installed. Below is an account print out. My calculations differ as I work per calendar month and the council has a moving month for billing on the water you can see it is 33 days. Maybe you can explain to me what I do not understand and where I error with my calculation. My calculations are not scientifically correct to the 3rd decimal but it is accurate enough for me to understand: My new 14Kw inverters is already paid for The existing 16KW is paid for All panels are paid for. My electricity pays my taxes on my house and my water is free as I use an RO for sea water. Please help me understand where I error. Thank you

There has been a proclamation by Mr Ramaphosa that changed everything. The technical reason is total nonsense. Since when does a breaker or a cable or a transformer know which way current is flowing? This was my excess for Jan 2024. On the 8'th I pushed back 76KWhr for the day. Do the maths. This been covered in previous discussions. Come summer I will push back about 130KW per day

Maths is wrong

There was a declaration by the president that overruled this. From SAP Import Export Oct 23 520.794 1,256.083 Nov 23 452.996 1,192.301 'Dec 23 381.076 1,833.817 ‘Jan 24 342.252 1,967.088 Feb 24 365.277 1,735.952 'March 24 441.691 1,724.778 'April 24 520.181 1,138.854 May 24 629.939 962.096 June 24 639.060 685.092

No 30KW inverters I have more than 30KW solar panels and it is for my HOUSE. Soon I will add another 30KW plus. Iw ill stop when I have about 65KW that I can push back

User using solar how can they subsidize none solar users? That I do not understand. COCT s charging every one the same fee of R 2.6833 and R 3.71 above 600units. I do not have batteries for after hour use I therefore use COCT power when there is no sun. This table shows +/- what COCT pays Eskom the right column and what they got from selling our solar that was put back in the grid. If there are differences COCT does not like sharing this info. but only they would know why. Well done with the win R-1,066.97 R 339.84 R-1,051.24 R 284.14 R-1,824.59 R 229.29 R-1,998.83 R 204.30 R-1,719.64 R 224.63 R-1,645.90 R 285.85 R-926.68 R 348.84 R-637.51 R 440.04 R-128.94 R 177.98 R-11,000.31 R 2,534.90

It could coincidence but since the DA consortium won the court case about "ANC only" load shedding drop drastically. So all of a sudden ESKOM maintenance is on schedule, the correct coal is delivered and the coal no longer get wet in the rain and so we can continue. I agree there must be "payment" . My objection is the politicians messed up everything in SA and then people can't stop steeling. This is the actual problem we are facing enriching useless crooks and get nothing in return. As for the DA in COCT I do believe they have the best model. Currently we are getting R 0.87 per KwH if I am right that is what they are paying Eskom Then they have an incentive of R 0.25 Its actually a excellent model they are running and I am sure that they will reduce the 0.25 and eventually they might even drop it. The mess created by the ANC actually worked very well for us in the COCT. My total savings on solar currently is more that R6K per month somewhere there is an article on it. Will be interesting if Gauteng situation might pushing things this way and maybe other places to follow. When we complained about the meters COCT now have one for R6K.. When we complained about the data costs they attended to that and that is now R 4.92 per month. When I complained about data quality they reacted fixed stuff installed a 12dB yagi for LTE... and now it is working very well plus the monthly cost is lower and the cash back is higher. Mr Lewis I think as far as the total package they are "offering" us is very good and the grid in Cape Town is running very well extremely low faults as they do spend money on the maintenance and up grades of the grid. For that the way its is currently working is very good and compliments to them for this!!!

I guess then with R1K per month for nothing it is better to support China with batteries and disconnect completely. R1K per month one can then say its a maintenance fee on batteries rather than a connection fee. The reality is the COCT income from buying excess solar in my case is in the table below. For the council they have lost 0. In this case its better to be connected to COCT than Eskom. This summer I will have even more feedback so I recon my excess will be +/- 4MW per month Sept - Whats interesting is in the case of council they do not loose any income. In the case of COCT I think they are very fair. The table below is the current monthly surplus/excess in KWHr and then the money COCT receives by selling "our solar energy". 1256.083 R-1,066.97 1192.301 R-1,051.24 1833.817 R-1,824.59 1967.088 R-1,998.83 1735.952 R-1,719.64 1724.778 R-1,645.90 1138.854 R-926.68 962.096 R-637.51 685.0925 R-128.63 12496.0615 R-10,999.99 Considering that we have our own RO in our case the COCT out of pocket cost dropped from +/- R7K per month to a surplus. Our total Kwhr solar inverters is 30KWhr the table above is for 15Kwhr with the increase the R11k should become R22K.... Congrats to COCT I think they have the best model in the country

I don't think you can say nobody is forced to use Eskom. People are where there is no other supplier due to the monopoly. What they are working towards is to get R1K for availability and no effort. I do not use COCT water but I must pay an availability fee every month. R250 is acceptable. The monthly fee for electricity is R219.21 and they do regular upgrades and maintenance. We very seldom have power outages due to failures so this model is totally acceptable. This can not be said of ESKOM as they abuse, waste, no maintenance, mismanage and theft is an acceptable practise. The R1K is totally to high. Then in the case of a block of flats where the flats are liable for the distribution with in the flats must they get R1000 x 150 flats or R1K. If you install a solar geyser (heating not panels) gas stove and people are working with no pool then the usage is very low in any case. R1K is a subsidizing fee not an availability fee.

Nersa should rather implement structures that deals with corruption and sort the high costs but then they are part of the same network. Also what you don't understand if I understand the new tariffs correctly Eskom wants a +/- R1000 just for the connection. There are places currently that is paying more than R2000 per month for "electricity availability". Imagine before you have any electricity you must pay R2K. Nope when Eskom had people with knowledge working for them they where considered as one of the best utilities in the world and because people realized the cost of electricity and fuel has a direct impact on inflation it was kept as low as possible. But then you have people that vote for some person called Bidon and the whole worlds suffer. Nersa should drive costs down not up. They should look intelligently at the complete model and not simply feed a bottomless pit that has a lot of useless people creaming it. But then the question is how many at NERSA understand the impact on the poor and the the cost it will have. No inflation that is the worst tax implemented by politicians should be driven DOWN not up. For what reason must I pay R1000 per month that the installation costs was already paid for? What reason justifies this? I am sure that if the complete cost structure gets manage electricity can and will go down. Think a little differently to the problem. I can import a set of gears manufactured in India at +/- 30% of the local manufacturing costs. So its better for me to import that to sit with high fuel, electricity and mismanagement cost. The high costs are driving businesses out OF SA that's the impact. Think about it. Elon Musk a South African moved a complete business from California to Texas because of the increase of costs Apple moved Oracle Moved and so I can continue. All based on COST!!!! and you happily want to allow NERSA to enrich the few at the top. As for cost the DA is bragging about how they run the Western Cape. But they are actually worse. Their tax and cost structures combined with additional laws creates a different animal. If I manufacture a PC board in Cape Town one bare board in Cpt costs more than the manufacturing, assembly and components for 5 outside SA. In Cape Town I think the DA said there is a loss of about 700 businesses in the past few years. People should actually email NERSA with a notice of objection rather than support for these increases.

So you actually support mismanagement, theft and corruption and is 100% happy to pay for a communistic system where by those in power gets it all and the rest of the dummies must enrich the few at the top. If they can only lie, steel and waste money for what reason must I support such a corrupt system? They been lying and fooled you and appointed technical firms not based on knowledge but rather creaming the money for a few. Did you perhaps forget about Zuma and the Gupta's? There is corruption on every level and what you are saying is lets support it. The high costs etc is not about technology its all about supporting those that can't think and therefore the manufacturing and design gets forced out of SA so that the dumb can lead the way and actually steel from the poor. Have a look what the corrupt fake NEWS. SABC, CNN, BBC ... combined with Google, Meta(FB) they appointed Biden and the whole world is suffering because of your "type of theory". If technology is affordable why must we allow corrupts to steal from hardworking people? Technology costs is not expensive the overheads of feeding the systems is If facts shows that the amount of solar systems installed in SA is greater in KW than a power station like Koeberg which is 1900 MW/Hr, then for what reason must we pay a useless politicians to steel from us and enrich the comrade? The problem with ESKOM and expenses is not the running and expansion of it but rather those that see it as a personal profit scheme to enrich themself without having the mental ability to create and grow. Therefore steeling from the dumb and foolish is whats happening here and you are in support of it. Take note I am not a supporter of any political party so its not about a party it is because we have people voting for dumb politicians why we are experiencing the high costs and the added costs. There was a financial article that calculated the amount of installed solar in SA. Consider this statement. Should people be penalized for solar which is the impact of your view, you will have an immediate increase in black outs as the impact will be the same as one of the major power station outage in SA. People who installed solar directly impacted black outs. Therefore there are less blackouts and you suggest ESKOM must penalize them because they now have less to steel. How can this make any sense?

Melkbos. The 2 Volts is measured at the O/P of the inverter and it changes depending on the grid voltage/solar in order to compensate for line loss. I have to replace my feeder cable as I push back about 30amps on 2 phases when running 100%. Soon it will be 30A on 2 and 60 on one @ 100%. I need to install a new feeder system but only when I can do my building changes. I have about 50meter of cable to the COCT POC and 30M to the closest 11KV transformer. That should clarify it for you. With my new stuff I will have a 3 phase monitoring at the entrance to our property plus full monitoring of each inverter (I now have 6 7 + 7 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 2) and more to come.

If I am wrong with one or two panels I could not care less. Its not about the amount of panels or the cost or how fancy equipment or junk I have the impact remains as per the column on the savings with grid tied. So I do not wright a thesis or tried to be politically correct. The reality is the savings and the impact of grid tied and what it can mean for someone. Hopefully someone can understand the impact that I have backed by figures from the COCT account. Its the message and not the detail that's important I am selling nothing but hopefully some people can see the actual savings could also be for them. Thus far I manage to change quite a few mind sets and that's all I would like to achieve. Grid tied means that with the incentive of COCT solar can remove the monthly cost of the COCT and return some cash back. With RO COCT water acc = R 0.0 this means my solar is paying 98% of my COCT account. So instead of paying COCT +/- R8K per month that is now about R500 per month average. A saving of about R7500 per month. This is +/- the payment for a flat of +/- R750 000 or in some cases a bond payment or 1/2 of it what ever ...... Don't lecture me on different size of houses and stuff like that we will refer too as commonsense. Neither on best PV inverter rubbish like that for me its something to live on solar and RO sea water and then getting paid for that. If you read the article you will see the COCT has paid out R28M. Simply put R28M the government can not mismanage. There are no arguments for the cost of the expensive AMI meter as cash back from COCT will cover it. I believe the COCT should pass a law that all inverter should be stand alone and grid tied or only grid tied only not other stuff. Cash back since 1 Oct 2023: Oct R 1406 Nov R 1,335 Dec R 2,053 Jan R 2,203 Feb R 1,944 Mrch R 746 Apr R 28 Tot R 9,718 + V = R11,176 Just got the inverters below from internet sales. They are 2 x 7KW one was R 2000 the other R2300. So another 32 panels will go up soon. 32 pv = R2K = R64K + R 5K = R69K (+/- 100KW per day or R100 pd) for the new stuff or it can be seen as it is getting paid by the cash back from COCT. 2 years and it is paid or for the bigger picture the impact is R7K + R3K = +/- R10K ... 7 months it is paid by cash back from COCT. With the 12% increase its 1K per month extra. Hopefully it can change the mind of some one and it can help some one or shall I quote a well known teacher..." it needs God and a bulldozer to change mans mind " ....