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Growatt SPF 5000TL HVM and Pylontech US2000-B: Problems with the settings

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Hello everyone, I am very happy to have found this forum. There isn't much on the net from Growatt and about Growatt but here some people seem to have a lot of experience with these inverters. I live in Germany and this manufacturer has probably not been around here for as long as elsewhere in the world.
About my problem: I only set up the system (6x Hyundai 400W panels, Growatt SPF5000 TL+ 4xPylontech US 2000B) last November. Now that the sun is also rising higher in Germany, the system is finally producing usable output (about 7kW/day at the moment). I wasn't sure about the battery settings and chose "Li" instead of "Use". After what I have read here, it is better to select "Use" and be able to adjust the voltages. I did that now, but now the inverter shows me 100% battery charge all the time, although the battery is not full. Yesterday I loaded 6kW into the car with a full battery and the capacity was still displayed as 100%. This morning the display fell to 25%, which probably corresponded to reality, and then jumped back up to 100% after 2 hours. During the night, the battery was permanently charged with about 20 watts from the mains (?)
Something seems to be wrong with the communication between the battery's BMS and the inverter. Everything was fine until yesterday, no changes were made to the wiring, only the settings.
The current settings are as follows:
01 SBU
02 25A
04 SDS
05USE
11 30A
12 47.7V
13 50V
14 OSO
19 53.2V
20 53.2V
21 47.5V
At the moment I don't know what to do next, I haven't found anything about a reset either. The system works, the inverter and the batteries do not show any faults...
I would be very happy to get help here. An email to Growatt Germany was not answered. The service is really very bad...
Greetings from Germany,
Sireman

As long as you are not using Li on program 05, your BMS comms will not work, hence the wrong SoC display on your inverter. If you want to use BMS communication, you must select LI in program 05 and Protocol 04 in program 36 for Pylontech Batteries.  

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Thanks hoohloc for the quick reply. Before I switched yesterday, I had "Li" and protocol 02. That apparently worked (?), but the capacity display went down by 10% overnight alone from the 19W power consumption of the inverter... I switch once and observe and report again.

BTW, I do not use BMS comms because it used to limit my charge current to 25A for 4 x US2000B Plus. Your settings are ok except for program 02. You have four batteries and each battery can charge at 25A constantly. You can Set program02 to 100A 

 

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Yes I had the same problem. The setting in 02 kept going back to 25A. Now I've set protocol Li04 and it works 🙂 And what's even better: The charging current setting in 02 is now 100A (4x25A, the batteries are connected in parallel) and the inverter no longer regulates at around 1280W (currently charging he approx. 1437W with 28A). Why don't you charge with 100A max?
It's strange how the settings can sometimes be changed, sometimes not...let's see if they stay that way permanently.

What do these settings actually mean?:
44 58.4V
45 60
46 120
47 30
48 toF

I can't find anything about it in the manual...

12 minutes ago, hoohloc said:

BTW, I do not use BMS comms because it used to limit my charge current to 25A for 4 x US2000B Plus. Your settings are ok except for program 02. You have four batteries and each battery can charge at 25A constantly. You can Set program02 to 100A 

 

@hoohloc just a question can your two growatt push 50 amps each? I also have mine on us2, reason been in my case I don't want my battery to be charged at more that 20 Amps. I only have one LBSA 5.1 KW 100 A/h it takes a while to charge the battery but so far I've been able to get to full SOC.

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I found a Growatt troubleshooting guide for SPF5000 TL on the internet. It says under warning 20 Fault description: Bms communication error.

Suggestions:

1.  (...) If it’s Pylon brand lithium icon battery US2000/US3000  please set L02 in program 05

setting. if error message still exist please arrange to upgrade inverter firmware software

and BMS software

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12ttv9oCoC2rowUPDdsjfs0P4fz9DuSVt

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MFgsuwvJ2BRs-uHHlTshcjIiOsQIPYBt  there is a

software a video that guide you to upgrade software a SOP file that guide you to

upgrade step by step and a video that guide you to reset inverters factory setting

including.

I've had Li02 all along and everything seemed to work, as it does now with Li04. the only apparent difference was that the charging current under 02 was fixed at 25A and could not be changed. Now it's at 100A.
Will watch and report...

2 hours ago, Antonio de Sa said:

@hoohloc just a question can your two growatt push 50 amps each? I also have mine on us2, reason been in my case I don't want my battery to be charged at more that 20 Amps. I only have one LBSA 5.1 KW 100 A/h it takes a while to charge the battery but so far I've been able to get to full SOC.

Hi bro,  yep they do but only when I have enough solar or when my load is low. I'm adding a UP5000 next month and I should now see 150A out of the two inverters 

1 hour ago, Sireman said:

I found a Growatt troubleshooting guide for SPF5000 TL on the internet. It says under warning 20 Fault description: Bms communication error.

Suggestions:

1.  (...) If it’s Pylon brand lithium icon battery US2000/US3000  please set L02 in program 05

setting. if error message still exist please arrange to upgrade inverter firmware software

and BMS software

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12ttv9oCoC2rowUPDdsjfs0P4fz9DuSVt

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MFgsuwvJ2BRs-uHHlTshcjIiOsQIPYBt  there is a

software a video that guide you to upgrade software a SOP file that guide you to

upgrade step by step and a video that guide you to reset inverters factory setting

including.

I've had Li02 all along and everything seemed to work, as it does now with Li04. the only apparent difference was that the charging current under 02 was fixed at 25A and could not be changed. Now it's at 100A.
Will watch and report...

It must be an old guide, Li02 and protocol 04 works perfect for Pylontech, I have played around with all those protocols and can confirm that protocol 04 is the correct one for Pylontec.  

43 minutes ago, hoohloc said:

Hi bro,  yep they do but only when I have enough solar or when my load is low. I'm adding a UP5000 next month and I should now see 150A out of the two inverters 

Then the size of your cables and fuses must be able to handle all the current. well done boet. 

24 minutes ago, Antonio de Sa said:

Then the size of your cables and fuses must be able to handle all the current. well done boet. 

Yep! capable of carrying up to 240A. I have doubled up on my cables

 

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