Is there a chance Sonoff will release any devices that don't require neutrals? I am running some competitor devices currently as i don't have neutrals run to my light switches for example

I have either an Eachen or Tuya light switch without a neutral and the integration with eweLink seems fine. Why are you looking for Sonoff specifically?

10 minutes ago, frivan said:

I have either an Eachen or Tuya light switch without a neutral and the integration with eweLink seems fine. Why are you looking for Sonoff specifically?

I too am using Tuya / Eachen switches and they actually work great. Was just wondering if Sonoff would bring non-neutral devices. im quite keen on the NS Panel in particular for a number of use cases; but to get that to work in current setup would necessitate running a neutral. 

18 minutes ago, mzezman said:

NS Panel in particular

The NS panel requires way too much power to be run without a neutral...

6 minutes ago, P1000 said:

The NS panel requires way too much power to be run without a neutral...

aah ok - i wasn't aware of that.. thanks for the explanation. 

If you dont mind zigbee, these dont need neutrals:

https://eiferer.co.za/products/sonoff-zbmini-l?_pos=2&_sid=652bee581&_ss=r

There is a v2 out overseas but not here yet:

https://sonoff.tech/product/diy-smart-switches/zbmini-l2/

I have been waiting for ages for Shelly to launch the 1L but it has been "coming soon" on their website for months, so I think the ZBMINI-L is the next best thing. Just annoying as I dont have the zigbee bridge yet so adds to the overall cost.

3 hours ago, Robbo said:

If you dont mind zigbee, these dont need neutrals:

https://eiferer.co.za/products/sonoff-zbmini-l?_pos=2&_sid=652bee581&_ss=r

There is a v2 out overseas but not here yet:

https://sonoff.tech/product/diy-smart-switches/zbmini-l2/

I have been waiting for ages for Shelly to launch the 1L but it has been "coming soon" on their website for months, so I think the ZBMINI-L is the next best thing. Just annoying as I dont have the zigbee bridge yet so adds to the overall cost.

I actually got a zigbee hub from sonoff that runs off USB-A. Was meant to be the start of my zigbee universe but the first device I got (sonoff zigbee motion sensor) just died after 2 days. Replacing battery helped for 30mins then I kinda gave up on it.

Will see if I step back into the zigbee universe again. The hub seems fine but end devices are hit and miss for me. 

Hi

I am also not a fan of battery powered sensors ZigBee or WiFi. The only battery powered device I really like is my house is my Inverter the rest I will happily run a cable and never have to deal with flat batteries. I.e. my cell phone and the only reason I put up with the bad battery life because its mobile.

I was not much of a fan of the ZigBee devices at all till the ZigBee Bridge Pro came out had some nice local security features like arming and disarming.

Now that the NS Panel Pro is here with a built in ZigBee Bridge Pro and sound I am defiantly a bit more of a fan. I have also ran multiple tests and different batteries. I found that the bigger the distance between sensor is and  Bridge the quicker the battery runs flat which adds up. So the ZigBee plug helped alot.

I also found the Duracell batteries where much better and then they became harder to get. Also found and huge relation between having the sensors in a cooler place. I.e. I had one on the top of the fridge and it lasted half the time of the one on the Kitchen counter.

I think sensor should be deigned to last a year and the form factor should be sized accordingly.

I have now wired my 10 year old DSC alarm control panel through a small signalling relay's to a Sonoff MINI S1 and S2 port's and have one Sonoff Mini per zone and it turns on my lights via scenes as I walk through the house.

We are also testing a very cleaver solution on the current sensors and have six months successful testing hopefully will get Sonoff’s permission to make the modification.

Aleks

On 2023/02/09 at 4:11 PM, Robbo said:

If you dont mind zigbee, these dont need neutrals:

https://eiferer.co.za/products/sonoff-zbmini-l?_pos=2&_sid=652bee581&_ss=r

There is a v2 out overseas but not here yet:

https://sonoff.tech/product/diy-smart-switches/zbmini-l2/

I have been waiting for ages for Shelly to launch the 1L but it has been "coming soon" on their website for months, so I think the ZBMINI-L is the next best thing. Just annoying as I dont have the zigbee bridge yet so adds to the overall cost.

Hi

The ZigBee 220 volt devices are slowly winning me over as the 128 device mark is a challenge even with 3 different access points with subnetting and a different mash network for streaming.

I know there are better ways to do it it’s just the cost involved stack up pretty quickly.

I was not much of a ZigBee fan probably because I was more of an IP Networking guy and if I could ping it from my command prompt I was happy, seeing the latency, packet drops was easy.

I am starting to enjoy the new NS Panel Pro as a desktop panel. The ZigBee Bridge on it and adding the sensors was really easy unlike before.

You can add ZigBee devices directly on the panel which is really nice and quick, notifications are quick and the display is good.

I know that HA solves all these issues of local scenes, local networking and If anyone is interested in going on JV with HA I am very happy to start a business venture.

Aleks