So it seems I might have to finally upgrade due to my current inverter dying from a short. 

Inverter wise am looking at the luxpower SNA5000. 

Battery wise I've heard good things about the svolt 51.2v 5.4kwh and am deeply considering this. However saw 48v 4.6kwh Dyness on special for around 17k that had distracted me. 

Svolt has slightly higher kwh

Which one would you go for? 

 

 

Edited April 14, 20242 yr by sunset1

1 hour ago, sunset1 said:

So it seems I might have to finally upgrade due to my current inverter dying from a short. 

Inverter wise am looking at the luxpower SNA5000. 

Battery wise I've heard good things about the svolt 51.2v 5.4kwh and am deeply considering this. However saw 48v 4.6kwh Dyness on special for around 17k that had distracted me. 

Svolt has slightly higher kwh

Which one would you go for? 

 

 

I know Dyness is compatible with Luxpower SNA5000 via Can not sure about Svolt maybe someone has paired Lux with Svolt with comms.

luxpower_compatible_list_20230408 (1).pdf

The list from Luxpower Tek is a year old maybe there is a new list that includes Svolt. Ask the question from your supplier or contact Luxpower Tek. If i remember correctly @PsyCLown has Svolt paired with Luxpower SNA5000 maybe he can give some pointers.

Edited April 14, 20242 yr by TaliaB

Here is the document from Svolt for the differing Inverters and other useful info.

 

Svolt Lithium Battery With Multiple Brands Inverter Commuation Setting 20230804.pdf

Edited April 14, 20242 yr by zsde

Think you are correct I read a thread where yesterday where I think@PsyCLown got luxpower and svolt communicating. 

 

On 2024/04/14 at 8:18 PM, sunset1 said:

So it seems I might have to finally upgrade due to my current inverter dying from a short. 

Inverter wise am looking at the luxpower SNA5000. 

Battery wise I've heard good things about the svolt 51.2v 5.4kwh and am deeply considering this. However saw 48v 4.6kwh Dyness on special for around 17k that had distracted me. 

Svolt has slightly higher kwh

Which one would you go for? 

 

 

If looking at Dyness remember you also get a 15 cell SVolt of 48V 5.09kWh a lot cheaper than the SVolt 5.43kWh.

Svolt has higher discharge as it is a 1C battery. 

On 2024/04/16 at 7:47 PM, Scorp007 said:

If looking at Dyness remember you also get a 15 cell SVolt of 48V 5.09kWh a lot cheaper than the SVolt 5.43kWh.

Svolt has higher discharge as it is a 1C battery. 

I wouldn't call it much cheaper. Generally only a R500 difference between the 48v (15 cell) and 51.2v (16 cell) Svolt battery.

 

Svolt have the rack mount batteries which are cheaper than the usual wall mounted batteries and these are cheaper. They do not have a screen with the BMS though which is likely part of the reason for the lower price.

I have two BX51100 Dyness batteries that have been running flawlessly for almost 2 years.

Apparently the new ones now also support 1C discharge.

 

Cheers

Douw

2 hours ago, Douw G. Gerber said:

I have two BX51100 Dyness batteries that have been running flawlessly for almost 2 years.

Apparently the new ones now also support 1C discharge.

 

Cheers

Douw

Dyness do seem to be quote bulletproof - I have 3x48100 running for more than 3 years now - also no issues at all

I know this doesn't directly answer the OP question, but if you are going with a LuxPower inverter then you should seriously consider a Hina (ESS or PowerGem) battery. They have a joint relationship with LuxPower providing integrated software and management. You can manage both the battery and inverter from a single console as well as do all firmware updates etc. The ease of integration and joint management is a blessing. It also makes for easier / better quality support if you have a problem as they run a joint support WhatsApp group locally.

 

1 hour ago, Spys said:

I know this doesn't directly answer the OP question, but if you are going with a LuxPower inverter then you should seriously consider a Hina (ESS or PowerGem) battery. They have a joint relationship with LuxPower providing integrated software and management. You can manage both the battery and inverter from a single console as well as do all firmware updates etc. The ease of integration and joint management is a blessing. It also makes for easier / better quality support if you have a problem as they run a joint support WhatsApp group locally.

 

I know there are quite a lot of people who like the LuxPower & Hinda combo but how often does one do a firmware update on a battery and how much management does one actually need to do on a battery?

 

Generally it is set and forget and only if there is an issue does one go and make changes. I believe the warranty is extended if you purchase a Luxpower & Hina battery which is a nice to have I guess and the Hina batteries are not badly priced but are also not the cheapest.

So I guess depending on which brand(s) you were considering the Hinda might make more sense (ie. Over a Dyness or Volta etc.)

11 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

I wouldn't call it much cheaper. Generally only a R500 difference between the 48v (15 cell) and 51.2v (16 cell) Svolt battery.

I purely based my statement on a Google. You would know better as one who had to shop for your batteries. Over R2000 between these sellers. 

14 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

I know there are quite a lot of people who like the LuxPower & Hinda combo but how often does one do a firmware update on a battery and how much management does one actually need to do on a battery?

 

Generally it is set and forget and only if there is an issue does one go and make changes. I believe the warranty is extended if you purchase a Luxpower & Hina battery which is a nice to have I guess and the Hina batteries are not badly priced but are also not the cheapest.

So I guess depending on which brand(s) you were considering the Hinda might make more sense (ie. Over a Dyness or Volta etc.)

100% on the set it and forget it. That’s exactly why I went the “integrated” LuxPower plus Hina route. And it has delivered. 
 

Both companies are very active in the software/firmware development side of things. I popped over the the SNA / LXP change log site this morning to confirm. There is a software/firmware update at least once a quarter. I have had two software updates for my Hina PowerGem battery since installed in December. 
 

As I went with the LXP model I got the free 10 year warranty extension for both the inverter and battery. This was a nice to have, not essential. 
 

They really have put a lot of effort into their management software to the point I have shutdown my Solar assistant. 
 

Having integrated inverter and battery management on a single screen just adds to that whole peace of mind thing. 
 

Something I did learn in my journey is that in the local inverter/ battery / solar space there generally is no such thing as a single authorised importer and agent for a brand, such as we see in other industries. If, for example, (and I am generalising) you see a battery on site A for R25k and the same battery on site B for R21k, there is a good chance that the cheaper battery is coming from a different route to market. The cheaper option might cost you dearly in the long run. 
 

@Spys

The peace of mind part is very true for installer and system owner all the same, as i have gone through quite a few stressful RMA processes with different systems( combinations) not naming products and companies. The question now with Lux and Hina should there be a RMA process within the 10 years how would that play out. I keep a spare inverter and battery as backup should the RMA goes sideways but not all installers have the means to be disaster ready. 

Yup. I look at all the 10 year warranty's being offered with a squint in one eye. Good luck in 9 years, 11 months time. 🙃 But hey, in the short term I sleep better.