1 hour ago, plonkster said:

and you might not have an earth connection at all.

O my WORD!!!

The pluggies just arrived, i'm gnna play around a bit and report back. If I don't, then consider them dangerous

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This isn't really a complete test, its just so i can make up my mind... which i cant.

Janma summarized it quite nicely and ill add to the list:

Positives:

1. They are compact so it causes less clutter
2. They are less likely to split open when pulled out of the socket and easier to grip 
3. The sockets are compatible with the 2 point plugs
4. The holes in the socket is smaller so less likely for a small child to get their fingers into it. 
5. Very easy to wire, i mean really easy. It separates into 3 pieces and you can do the connection neatly then put it back together.
6. you can flip the insert, so you can choose which way the cable goes.

Negatives:

1. Small contact area, 16A current rating is questionable
2. Has some wiggle room, its better than a 2 point but its not solved. Poor quality plugs are going to suffer.
3. Little room for cable inside, especially something rated at the plugs capacity, im thinking you will struggle badly to get a thick 3 core cabtyre in there. 
4. Insert is likely to pinch wires if you don't take care.
5. Strain relief is poor, it works but again thicker gauge wires is an issue. it clicks into the casing and i think its going to break or just be left out by many people. also it pinches a bit because its so thin.
6. screw hole pillar could pinch wires if you're not careful and it would have been nice to see a threaded insert as there is only one screw to it. 
7. Lastly, and to me probably the biggest failure is the small press fit cap to cover the screw on the side. To start: Its so tight i have to damage it to get it off, then as time goes by these will start to fall out, either dropping the plug too many times or quality of the plugs deteriorate. now maybe its swallowed by a kid, or worse the screw is through a carrying wire, yes its entirely possible here and easy. now you have mains exposed a few millimeters from your hand. kids could poke at mains with any small object. the cap should have been a plastic screw in cap!  

On to a little load test. i connected a heater and tumble dryer through one and through the multiplug drawing a little more than 16A for about 30 MIns. plugged out and took the pics

Plug while in

The Plug

The socket

the wall plug carrying the same current

the wall Socket carrying the same current

So for high current id still use the old plug,

In a sense i really like these plugs and i want to use them because of space saving. I wouldn't go over about 8 A on them though, they handle 16 fine, granted a little hotter but i'm convinced in a while there will be cheaper crap everywhere and then it will be a different story. I think ill also glue in that screw cap after its been wired.

but yea, not sure...... its not a safer plug than the old one imo, but that too had its issues.

Oh and thanks very much Clint for recommending these Multi-plugs, they are no question better than most out there and at a very very decent price. Ill be replacing at least 4 of mine with these.

 

 

12 hours ago, Weasel said:

This isn't really a complete test, its just so i can make up my mind... which i cant.

Janma summarized it quite nicely and ill add to the list:

Positives:

1. They are compact so it causes less clutter
2. They are less likely to split open when pulled out of the socket and easier to grip 
3. The sockets are compatible with the 2 point plugs
4. The holes in the socket is smaller so less likely for a small child to get their fingers into it. 
5. Very easy to wire, i mean really easy. It separates into 3 pieces and you can do the connection neatly then put it back together.
6. you can flip the insert, so you can choose which way the cable goes.

Negatives:

1. Small contact area, 16A current rating is questionable
2. Has some wiggle room, its better than a 2 point but its not solved. Poor quality plugs are going to suffer.
3. Little room for cable inside, especially something rated at the plugs capacity, im thinking you will struggle badly to get a thick 3 core cabtyre in there. 
4. Insert is likely to pinch wires if you don't take care.
5. Strain relief is poor, it works but again thicker gauge wires is an issue. it clicks into the casing and i think its going to break or just be left out by many people. also it pinches a bit because its so thin.
6. screw hole pillar could pinch wires if you're not careful and it would have been nice to see a threaded insert as there is only one screw to it. 
7. Lastly, and to me probably the biggest failure is the small press fit cap to cover the screw on the side. To start: Its so tight i have to damage it to get it off, then as time goes by these will start to fall out, either dropping the plug too many times or quality of the plugs deteriorate. now maybe its swallowed by a kid, or worse the screw is through a carrying wire, yes its entirely possible here and easy. now you have mains exposed a few millimeters from your hand. kids could poke at mains with any small object. the cap should have been a plastic screw in cap!  

On to a little load test. i connected a heater and tumble dryer through one and through the multiplug drawing a little more than 16A for about 30 MIns. plugged out and took the pics

Plug while in

The Plug

The socket

the wall plug carrying the same current

the wall Socket carrying the same current

So for high current id still use the old plug,

In a sense i really like these plugs and i want to use them because of space saving. I wouldn't go over about 8 A on them though, they handle 16 fine, granted a little hotter but i'm convinced in a while there will be cheaper crap everywhere and then it will be a different story. I think ill also glue in that screw cap after its been wired.

but yea, not sure...... its not a safer plug than the old one imo, but that too had its issues.

Oh and thanks very much Clint for recommending these Multi-plugs, they are no question better than most out there and at a very very decent price. Ill be replacing at least 4 of mine with these.

 

 

Can you perform the same temp tests ( I don't have a FLIR camera) with both an old and new plug, with the same load?

How do you mean? Like a comparison between a new and an aged plug of the same type?

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Same test just using a normal SA 3 prong plug, with same pics.

OK, I guess it's difficult to see in the thermals, the last 2 pics are of the old 3 pin plug. They carried the same current. New one is 10 c hotter

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1 hour ago, Weasel said:

How do you mean? Like a comparison between a new and an aged plug of the same type?

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No, not aged. Just comparing the new and old technology. 

No, not aged. Just comparing the new and old technology. 

That's what I did [emoji2]

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