Mart-Mari

We replaced a +- 7year old "something else" for a 370L Bosh A++ fridge/freezer combo, about two years and it uses about 1W/h! The 210L Defy is probably about 25years old, with a leak at the back so it defrosts too quickly when run on the timer. Perhaps I should just empty + clean it, and seal it up. 

Hi Mart-Mari, which model Bosch do you have?

Thanks. 110kW is very little, our unit uses that in less than a month 

Here you go. Less than 1kwh a day :-)

My old fridge/freezer combo used 3kwh a day. So it used the same power in 5 weeks as this one does in a year.
Of course, the 112 is a little optimistic under actual use, but I'd still say that this one probably uses less power in a year than the previous one did in two months.

This is really remarkable. If I remember correctly, these fridges were about R8 000 each. Can't find the invoice now. But, if one takes the huge energy saving fact into account, it makes sense to buy them. I bought them in 2014 and I have never thrown any food away since then. So think about it... (And no, I am not a Bosch rep.)

You starting to understand this forum 

And icecream!

This is really remarkable. If I remember correctly, these fridges were about R8 000 each. Can't find the invoice now. But, if one takes the huge energy saving fact into account, it makes sense to buy them. I bought them in 2014 and I have never thrown any food away since then. So think about it... (And no, I am not a Bosch rep.)

Agreed. After I bought ours, I realised the same thing. You save money on electricity. Then you save more money because you buy in bulk, you have more space. Then you save even more money because the food lasts longer. I found that the German review which said that "ich habe wirklich das Gefühl Gemüse hält länger". That was no lie. Now we actually buy the more expensive stuff from woolworths, because it actually works out cheaper in the long run.

The A++ Bosch refrigerators and fridge-freezers are the most energy efficient fridges and they cool especially efficiently. Fruits, vegetables and other food stay fresh thanks to humidity control. I don't throw anything away anymore. They have retractable glass shelves for convenient loading and perfect view. They also have LED lights that illuminate the refrigerators evenly. These were my best buy ever.

Very Good

Yeah, but all of it made sense. Life is not only about solar energy.

Lol!

Yeah, but all of it made sense. Life is not only about solar energy.

I can absolutely derail any conversation.
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Sjoe now that's high praise. Mart Marie you obviously did not read the thread that started on solar and ended with motor cars. Mind you Plonky managed to get motor cars and hedgehog resistors muscled in on your thread.

Quality is not about the amount of items on a shopping list in order to fix the broken parts. Quality is the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind or the degree of excellence of something.  
I'll only join if I can get one of these:
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I get upset about this because this is another area of my life I am fairly serious about. Excuse this bit of testimony right here in the middle (in my experience trade people and farmers tend to be more religious because they are closer to "creation" if you will, but such disclaimers is required on the internet these days), but during my university training there came a time when I had to decide, and so I treated it like most other things in life: I researched the crap out of it, and came back convinced.
That's how I got into philosophy (in addition to all my other hobbies). :-)
In any case, as far back as the second century, a satirist named Lucian of Somosata wrote a play in which the main character took advantage of the good nature of religious people. So this practice is LITERALLY as old as the religion in question itself. So take heart... it is not indicative of anything.

But seriously though... ask yourself if such a generalisation is even rational? I mean, I think here of the whole Penny Sparrow debacle (tread careful plonky... political stuff here), because that is sort of the reverse, or the other extreme. Here everyone (or at least everyone on social media) understood very well (or joined the bandwagon of those who do) that you cannot generalise  the behaviour of a few messy individuals to the average skin colour of the crowd, and they were right. What everyone forgot is that we're still stuck with the basic problem: that some individuals are truly messy and mess things up for all of us.

Here we have the reverse. We identified a truly problematic situation. Now I just wish that people will have the same aversion to generalisation, or if they don't, that they will at least join the bandwagon of those who do understand that. :-)

I mean... talk of social media. I have some Americans in in that virtual circle of friends. Some of them are extreme conservatives... and what really gets me about their way of reasoning, is how they will become climate-change deniers and solar-haters because of a supposed concern for employment issues (specifically, coal mining). Like astronomers can predict that there is an unseen planet nearby because of the way another visible body behaves, some beliefs tend to pull others into their gravitational field.
I'm just begging here that we don't let "solar is dangerous" become one of those things. Apologies for all this Sunday-morning philosophy :-)

Yup. I always say that stereotypes aren't completely baseless, they do come from somewhere, and they save so much time in summing up the situation! Of course, there are times you have to step back and inspect those stereotypes :-)
That BMW I mentioned previously? I sold that thing in anger. It was a relatively small piece of straw that broke the camel's back, but as you say... at that point I ignored all the other factors. Two hedgehog resistors* in the space of 4 months!? I don't CARE if it's only R1000 a pop, that the car is paid off, that it is nice to drive, etc... if I have to open up the footwell one more time and contort my back into a question mark to reach the damn thing I'm going to implode... so I sold the damn thing :-)
** hedgehog resistor, because it looks like one. Real name is final stage blower resistor. It's the fan speed control module for the climate control unit, and a known weak spot in that model (and every other one that has the same climate control, all the way from the Mini to the X5).

He he, and here I grudgingly live with my 1900's (well the century is right) Merc that I spend at least a hour or two every weekend fixing some problem or other... At least R1k a month is spent on that thing (Averaged for last year costs of R15200, excluding my labour), but replacing it is out of the question... It was a new car for Me or WENCH, or food/medical aid/solar (would have cost all 3!)

I sent him some goodies in the post (not very exciting I may add) so his absence cannot be attributed to that - AWOL 3 dae in die samajoor's blikkas.  

Zigackly!