February 11, 20233 yr Hi guys We are busy with renovations in our house. I bought veti plug sockets from major tech and noted they dont have an on/off switch. As a kid I was taught you first have to switch it off before you unplug. What are youre thoughts on this? Is this legal to install? Edited February 11, 20233 yr by Wanderer
February 11, 20233 yr Author Something else that I would like to know is about installation of plug sockets in a ceiling. I have cameras around the house that works on wifi. They obviously need power and are connected to plug sockets in rooms but I dont like the cables. I was wondering if its possible (and legal) to get an electricity supply in the roof to not have the unsightly cables. Or can you run extension cords within the ceiling cavity? Can someone please suggest some solutions to this before I start getting quotes to do it
February 27, 20233 yr As for the switch(I'm not an electrician nor do i have all the sans codes) but it seems the sans 164-1 plugs was the main issue as there was a possibility to touch the terminals while being unplugged. They are sort of phased out. The newer ones 'sans 164-2' has this sorted so the plug is already disconnected before the live terminal is exposed. My guess is 164-1 needs an isolator whereas 164-2 dont. I might be wrong though, so better let an informed sparky answer to this. As for the dc, even wired cameras has dc wires to them and i dont think it's covered by coc, afaik because you can unplug the power supply it's not considered part of the site's wireing, also 12v dc is not considered dangerous to a person. Again, please confirm with an qualified electrician before installing solely on my limited knowledge.
February 27, 20233 yr On 2023/02/11 at 2:03 PM, Wanderer said: Hi guys We are busy with renovations in our house. I bought veti plug sockets from major tech and noted they dont have an on/off switch. As a kid I was taught you first have to switch it off before you unplug. What are youre thoughts on this? Is this legal to install? Yep they are the new legal sockets Sans 164-2 as @mbznhas pointed out. Ceiling socket outlets are allowed if properly secured and covered( enclosure) on the inside of the ceiling. If have seen ceiling sockets in office blocks with pull down cords for cleaning crews at night. Picture of similar installation i am referring to.
February 28, 20233 yr Author On 2023/02/27 at 2:22 PM, mbzn said: As for the dc, even wired cameras has dc wires to them and i dont think it's covered by coc, afaik because you can unplug the power supply it's not considered part of the site's wireing, also 12v dc is not considered dangerous to a person. Thanks very much for the feedback I think a 12v power supply may be a better alternative than the cost and effort of additional plugs Edited February 28, 20233 yr by Wanderer
February 28, 20233 yr On 2023/02/11 at 2:09 PM, Wanderer said: Something else that I would like to know is about installation of plug sockets in a ceiling. I have cameras around the house that works on wifi. They obviously need power and are connected to plug sockets in rooms but I dont like the cables. I was wondering if its possible (and legal) to get an electricity supply in the roof to not have the unsightly cables. Or can you run extension cords within the ceiling cavity? Can someone please suggest some solutions to this before I start getting quotes to do it Extensions are used for temporary supply to equipment. No fixed installation with them. Rather use surfix or twin and earth. Yes you are spot on the just provide DC to the cameras.
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