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Generator and 5x Axpert 5kw Inverters

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Hi I need help.

I have 5x 5KW Axpert Offgrid Inverters connected in Parallel. (sol-ix-5-m)

I don't have any Eskom Power connected but instead I have a Ryobi 7KVA Petrol Generator with built in AVR.

When I connect the generator to the inverters and let it run the Inverters will kick in the generator load and the in 1 second kick off and back to Solar / Battery.

sometimes it will trip some trip switches.

I had the AVR on Ryobi Changed to a Firman One as I believe they are better.

 

I connect a 3KVA Tradepower Inverter generator and it will work fine but this is too small.

Why do the inverters refuse to accept the power from my Ryobi generator but ok with the Tradepower. 

I have tried another type of generator (Honda 8kw) and this also will not kick in same result.

I basically need the Ryobi to only charge the battery while the inverters use load from batteries when solar not available but no load from generator.

What am I doing wrong.

8 hours ago, Leonvd1983 said:

I have 5x 5KW Axpert Offgrid Inverters connected in Parallel. (sol-ix-5-m)

Wow, five in parallel. Do you have some really high loads?

 

8 hours ago, Leonvd1983 said:

I don't have any Eskom Power connected but instead I have a Ryobi 7KVA Petrol Generator with built in AVR.

When I connect the generator to the inverters and let it run the Inverters will kick in the generator load and the in 1 second kick off and back to Solar / Battery.

These inverters don't like AC sources whose voltage or frequency changes abruptly. I don't know much about generators or their AVRs, but my understanding is that they can be slow to respond to load changes. When you initially connect the generator to a substantial load, it may take a few seconds to adjust the output voltage. This seems often to be too slow for the Axpert inverters.

If possible, turn off most or all your loads, get the inverters to accept the generator with no or light loads, then gradually switch on your loads.

If that's not possible, perhaps you can put a temporary load on the generator before it connects to the inverters.

Failing all that, you may need a generator with an inverter built in. These seem to be able to regulate their voltage and frequency much better than unregulated generators, and even generators with an AVR.

8 hours ago, Leonvd1983 said:

I connect a 3KVA Tradepower Inverter generator and it will work fine but this is too small.

The inverter in the generator keeps the Axpert inverters happy. So a larger generator with inverter built in will likely work.

8 hours ago, Leonvd1983 said:

Why do the inverters refuse to accept the power from my Ryobi generator but ok with the Tradepower. 

I have tried another type of generator (Honda 8kw) and this also will not kick in same result.

It's on my to-do list to try and understand exactly why Axperts are so picky about generators. I assume you have set setting 03 (AC input voltage range) to APL (Appliance, as opposed to UPS).

8 hours ago, Leonvd1983 said:

I basically need the Ryobi to only charge the battery while the inverters use load from batteries when solar not available but no load from generator.

It may be cheaper and easier to obtain a 48 V battery charger, and run that from the generator. Connect the output of the 48 V charger to your inverters' battery.

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1 hour ago, Lord Buckethead said:

I use a 6KVA pure sine wave UPS between my generator and inverter and that work just fine. Without the UPS, I experience the same problem as you.

Thank you

14 hours ago, Lord Buckethead said:

I use a 6KVA pure sine wave UPS between...

That seems expensive and excessive. To introduce an inverter between the generator and your inverter! The Axpert isn't value-adding much in that case.

1 hour ago, Coulomb said:

That seems expensive and excessive. To introduce an inverter between the generator and your inverter! The Axpert isn't value-adding much in that case.

I owned this UPS before going solar.

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