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  1. Which model and size Axpert King? Is the charge function running? Part of loss of grid volts could be your charger bringing down your supply voltage, but I don't give this much argument. Does this happen any day of week, or particular days? Week-end? In the last few weeks of LOCKDOWN? Where else can we find reasons for your "peak times"? When it falls to 150V, for what period? (Don't know the spec's for your area, but they have rules where they can drop out for 1mS (?) without you complaining about it. Others will know better.
  2. I once converted a mains-type lead light (the workshop type, for working under cars) with a standard headlight bulb where the low-beam filament had burned out, with croc clips. Turned out to be the best 'rough' load for many 12V (and less) applications, like testing batteries and chargers. Particularly because of the steel wire lamp protection cage-design.
  3. To you and me that makes perfect sense. I just wonder how a beginner/novice will understand the concept correctly. Hence my query. What makes sense? How will these folk interpret CC / CL? (Spoken or written science, interpretation, etc....)
  4. The phrase 'constant current' (CC) (regarding the bulk mode of charging most batteries), when is it "constant"? Do you NEED to charge batteries at THIS current, and no less? Or can we charge said batteries at lower value current but not exceed this value? (Ex.: Ni-Cads must be charged at CC for a fixed time to be fully charged.) Or do they/we mean "current limit"? (meaning to limit the maximum current.) As I read it if I have PV rated less than the required/specified CC I will never meet the CC rating of the particular type/size of the battery with my particular setup. In theory therefore I should never expect to reach beyond the bulk charge point to charge this (or any) particular battery. On the contrary, if my PV can only produce (some) less Amps than the CC rating I should still be able to reach the bulk voltage point, but it will take a while longer. If this is true then it should in theory be called "current limit" (meaning in effect "Do not / cannot exceed CC rating") and not "current control". Some would call this nit-picking, but I prefer to know what "they" mean correctly, to better understand "them" and what "they" are saying. (Perhaps it's a shade of "fake news" we're bombarded with daily...)
  5. huh...? (Phew....!)
  6. The importers of these Trojans ship the batteries filled with electrolyte and ready-to-use, by sea freight. The first series I bought I measured on delivery at (average) 6.70V no-load and 6.55V @ 5A load after 5 minutes : acceptable in my opinion. I would expect some self-discharge during shipping, storage and "shelf" before sale/delivery, typically 2%/month. I don't know who imports batteries dry because the weight difference is insignificant compared to the weight of the nett battery - let alone the type and quality of electrolyte available locally. (I can imagine the hassle with quality/guarantee of the product by manufacturer after filling with possibly dubious stuff.) [Aside : some batteries I bought in the past, typ. 12V 20Ah were shipped 'dry' from China and it took me some time to find a good electrolyte (Protea Chemicals).] I asked my original question to hear if someone had experience of managing this procedure (or variations) and their results. By the way, the site is www.trojanbattery.com and no other.
  7. I now have 4 x Trojan T105 (6V) resting, i.e. not being used for 3 months until next project. I connected the string directly to 2 x SOLARWORLD PS 150 pv's (wired in series) to boost the batt's for balance and de-sulphating without a controller/regulator. I have been monitoring cell electrolyte levels and have topped up regularly with de-ionised water. After a few hours of good sunshine it reaches 31V, so I imagine a total of 6 hours of charging. After overnight "rest" next morning I read 25.4V. Is this useful and acceptable? Can / should I do this regularly? Once a week?
  8. A very good reply weber and much thanks for it. You're quite right that the right option is to properly balance the batteries with suitable connection philosophy. In my case charge current is mostly less than 10A from either source, and load current is max. 16A ever, so I wonder if my imbalance is SO important in my installation. (Perhaps I'm lazy in my old age..?) I wonder if I alternate the main supply/take-off line from Axpert from first of the two batteries (call it "prime" battery) to 2nd battery ("slave") as internal connection of the 2 x Anderson plugs are parallel-connected inside the battery housing, say, once a week, we may achieve the right balance after some cycles? (Thanks, again.)
  9. When you say 'disconnect' then the charging voltage would be too high, unless you 'retune' the charge system. Or do you mean parallel connected batteries in which case you don't have to worry about 'retuning'?
  10. Yes, Weber, using those same Anderson plugs with 12mm2 cables. One pair direct connection from Batt1 to Axpert terminals = 1.7m. (Added 1.5mm2 wires at each end of the black cables for current reading and a red wire for V for my Mooshi - I can monitor the battery behaviour easily at the kitchen table.) Then same kind cable/Andersons from Batt1 to Batt2 (0.9m). Read your good stuff about the proper way to interconnect, but figured with such heavy cables it may not be necessary. Please correct me if I'm wrong/comment.
  11. I have 2 x AKKUTECH 25.5V 100Ah in parallel using the Anderson "parallel" plug (with 8mm2 cables throughout). Do you think it's necessary to re-wire so that it's according to your idea or can I continue in this way? I would like to balance the cells for longevity. What's your feeling here?
  12. After some more fiddles, settings are now : 2 = 20A 11 = 20A 12 = 25.5 13 = 25.5 26 = 29.2 27 = 29.0 29 = 24.0 ( setup : 4 SolarWorld SP150, AXPERT 1K-24, 2 AKKUTECH 25V 100Ahr) I see battery voltage rises to 29.0V before charge current tapers off [to float value?] but seldom exceeds 29.1V (measured on Mooshi). Now on SOL (setting 01), reads 140W (29.1V, 0A) with fridge load, running, TV, decoder. Am I being risky? Label reads "CC at 0.2C to 28.4V". Are they not deliberately down-specifying as 'excessive protection limit'? I would wonder at what voltage the capacity is measured (100Ah)?
  13. Too little information to help you, e.g. "... wiring in the house was problem", and "batteries don't last 4 hours like they used."
  14. It's a case of six of one and half a dozen for the other.
  15. I have a 4kW "6500" LPG-powered generator for back-up to my PV-batteries-inverter system for 15 years. I've designed and built 14 x PV-charger systems for lead-acid batteries (TROJAN T-105). I have tested at least 20 different charge controllers and inverters. I have now switched to LiFePO4 batteries and an AXPERT 1000/24 controller-inverter which drives fridge, TV, LED lighting during blackouts. I haven't used the genny for 3 years. But, being LPG it's there and waiting, and I can start it in 1 minute. I used the "hot cable"/suicide plug because only the wife home, and I am VERY careful and experienced. I would NEVER suggest others to use it. I suggest a "new user" to evaluate carefully, and particularly to use a proper change-over switch (and to avoid high power junk in the home like microwaves, toasters, kettles, etc), wired by a professional. Start with a good minimum system which is expandable. No system is too small, except that you can do less with it. I have customers who never "expanded" (for financial reasons) but they get by for the 2-hour blackouts. The main trick is the battery capacity. Be sure it seldom/never reaches the 80% capacity point - some folk call it "depth of discharge". This is what kills batteries - the regular/constant draining too much capacity. And in the case of lead-acid, sulphation, and maintaining a full charge. Particularly sealed AGM batteries.

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