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Geyserwise element Vs Standard 2kw Element

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On 2023/04/28 at 4:24 PM, hoohloc said:

Geyserwise PTC element uses both AC and DC supply. You can use both at the same time or one at a time and yes you can use the element without the geyser being directly connected to the solar panels. In my set up, the AC supply to the element is controlled by CBI Astute smart controller, connected to the DB supply. The DC supply is controlled by SONOFF to switch ON/OFF a contactor that is connected to the battery bank, 48v  

So I changed my thermostat and setup my Geyserwise system (with a geyser blanket) to come on at 4am-6am and then 15:30-17:00. I noticed a few things:

Whilst showering the water rapidly decreases temperate on the monitor? Is this because whilst showering the geyser is already filling itself with cold water? 

Secondly what is the PTC Temp setting? What’s different between this and the temperate on the different blocks?

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Just now, Raiden2912 said:

So I changed my thermostat and setup my Geyserwise system (with a geyser blanket) to come on at 4am-6am and then 15:30-17:00. I noticed a few things:

Whilst showering the water rapidly decreases temperate on the monitor? Is this because whilst showering the geyser is already filling itself with cold water? 

Secondly what is the PTC Temp setting? What’s different between this and the temperate on the different blocks?

 

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On 2023/05/30 at 6:54 AM, Raiden2912 said:

So I changed my thermostat and setup my Geyserwise system (with a geyser blanket) to come on at 4am-6am and then 15:30-17:00. I noticed a few things:

Whilst showering the water rapidly decreases temperate on the monitor? Is this because whilst showering the geyser is already filling itself with cold water? 

Secondly what is the PTC Temp setting? What’s different between this and the temperate on the different blocks?

Hi Bro

I don't use geyserwise controller, I'm only using their PTC element and control the AC timing with CBI astute, DC with SONOF. I don't get to see the actual temperatures but the water remains hot enough for three adults and two teens to shower in the morning. The temperature will decrease as you use water because the hot water from the geyser is being replaced by cold one while showering 😁

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On 2023/04/28 at 4:24 PM, hoohloc said:

Geyserwise PTC element uses both AC and DC supply. You can use both at the same time or one at a time and yes you can use the element without the geyser being directly connected to the solar panels. In my set up, the AC supply to the element is controlled by CBI Astute smart controller, connected to the DB supply. The DC supply is controlled by SONOFF to switch ON/OFF a contactor that is connected to the battery bank, 48v  

Hi Hoohloc.

I am considering a smiliar setup.

Which of the Sonoff Switches do you use for the DC switching?

Also, do you just connect the DC wiring directly to the poles of the battery?

24 minutes ago, 007 said:

Hi Hoohloc.

I am considering a smiliar setup.

Which of the Sonoff Switches do you use for the DC switching?

Also, do you just connect the DC wiring directly to the poles of the battery?

Hi @007

I use the basic one from Takealot, see the photo below.

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Just now, hoohloc said:

Hi @007

I use the basic one from Takealot, see the photo below.

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I use that to switch ON and OFF a contactor that breaks or make the DC connection. The power is taken directly from the fuse connector, on the inverter side of the connector. 

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Excellent idea Hoohloc.

So, if I understand correctly (I am no an expert) the contactor is dealing with the DC part, but the Sonoff (AC device) just controls the contactor?

If so, which contactor are you using that can operate like that? And if you can share a simple hand drawn schematic on how to do this, you will make my day.

9 minutes ago, 007 said:

Excellent idea Hoohloc.

So, if I understand correctly (I am no an expert) the contactor is dealing with the DC part, but the Sonoff (AC device) just controls the contactor?

If so, which contactor are you using that can operate like that? And if you can share a simple hand drawn schematic on how to do this, you will make my day.

If I can chip in. The basic sonoff is available from the great seller geewiz as well. It just needs the mounting hardware or box to fit in. 

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20 minutes ago, 007 said:

Excellent idea Hoohloc.

So, if I understand correctly (I am no an expert) the contactor is dealing with the DC part, but the Sonoff (AC device) just controls the contactor?

If so, which contactor are you using that can operate like that? And if you can share a simple hand drawn schematic on how to do this, you will make my day.

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Thank you Hoohloc.

I am getting a better idea, but do not understand how a contactor work.
I checked on that contactor, and have a slightly better idea now.

However, how do I connect the Sonoff to the contactor to "open and close" it?
Does the AC from the Sonoff connect to the Lovato to set the state, or am I missing something?

37 minutes ago, 007 said:

Thank you Hoohloc.

I am getting a better idea, but do not understand how a contactor work.
I checked on that contactor, and have a slightly better idea now.

However, how do I connect the Sonoff to the contactor to "open and close" it?
Does the AC from the Sonoff connect to the Lovato to set the state, or am I missing something?

Aha... The light went on.  I did not see the A1 and A2 from the pictures.  It looked like the AC from the Sonoff was going into port 3 and 5...

Now it all makes sense.  Like magic; it's just science we don't understand yet.

Any suggestions on where I can get that contactor?

I have a Voltex that is not a million miles away....

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