Everything posted by Marv
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A WORD TO THE WISE
The arc fault detection devices are there to protect the final circuits in the house such as lighting circuits, socket circuits etc, they will also protect the DB to some extent as well. They don't detect light or smoke or any environmental factors, they have a built in computer/PIC that monitors the waveform on that circuit they're supplying for characteristics or a waveform footprint that might indicate an arc fault. They're extremely technical devices with a test button like an earth leakage breaker but unlike an earth leakage breaker there's no way for a normal electrician to actually test if they work or not. There's often one or two small led indicator lamps built into the front of them that flash in numerous complicated sequences to indicate some info about the fault that caused them to trip. They look like a normal DIN mount circuit breaker but they're usually single pole + N configuration contacts. They can be prone to nuisance tripping with appliances that spark during their normal operation such as cooking appliance with a bi-metallic thermostat or even a drill with a brush motor. The way many manufacturers seem to be approaching the nuisance trip problem is to include a 'white list' in the internal program of the AFDD that has specific examples of waveforms from appliances that have been known to cause nuisance tripping in the past even though they are perfectly safe and functional. Many of the AFDD's are wi-fi connected and automatically get firmware updates supposedly to improve their performance over time. Some AFDD's are not Wi-Fi connected and need to be manually 'flashed' to update their firmware which would need a visit from an electrician. These devices are standard fitment in new installations in places like the UK, being driven by the requirements of the latest electrical regs.
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A WORD TO THE WISE
Arc fault circuit breakers are now standard requirement in domestic installations in parts of the USA and also the UK. We usually follow about 5-8 years later so expect them to be required here eventually. Hopefully they come down in price before then.... at present an AFDD / RCBO, single pole, type A is about 110 UK pounds each.
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First world problems (AKA be careful what you ask for)
If your incoming supply is low or high voltage you'll just have to pester the supplier until they sort it out. There's probably an auto tap changer faulty somewhere on their network or maybe there's a poor neutral CNE connection and the neutral is floating causing high voltage on one or two phases and low voltage on the other. I've seen cases where instead of fixing the neutral fault they move some loads off the lower voltage phases and put more load onto the higher voltage phases to try to bring the voltages back into spec. This never works but they look like they're working on it which buys them some time until they can get the one guy who knows what he's doing to fix it properly.
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Pool Pump Overheating on Inverter Power
If the pump runs fine on normal Eskom power but overheats on your inverter it's probably due to the non-sinusoidal shape or the PWM nature of the inverter power waveform. Fast voltage rise times play havoc with the efficiency of motors, especially single phase motors with capacitors. With small single phase motors usually there's usually no way to tell how they'll perform on an inverter supply without simply trying them and finding out the hard way.
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Where to get replacement dust filters?
Is it a mesh filter or sponge or a fibre mat? Try to stay with whatever material was used by the manufacturer because different filter materials can have a profound effect on the amount of air flowing. If it's a mesh or open cell sponge for example and you replace it with a fibre mat filter material you could cause overheating. You can buy fan filter sponge and fibre by the meter off a 1.2m roll from some HVAC suppliers but it's way too large for what you need. Medium sized quantities are available from RS Components who deliver to your door with orders over a certain amount such as this https://za.rs-online.com/web/p/fan-filters/7569884 where you get 5x 1 foot square pieces for about a grand. Finally there's these https://acdc.co.za/fans-heaters-bug-killers-water-coolers-hygiene-products/41648-filter-kit-for-120x120-fan.html?srsltid=AfmBOop-GZlliWSoliAPIuNP3EjPszH2GBnb7ejRRL6amuqKe7KpZknZ from ACDC Dynamics. They're 120mm square and at around 30 bucks each you can afford to buy the complete frame assembly, just use and cut the filter sponge to the size you need and throw the rest of it in the recycling bin.
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Metal Taste in drinking water via on-demand pump
I know you say the water tastes fine before the pump but I'd still check the pH level of the water first, it's a very cheap test and it would be good to rule that out before looking at more involved and expensive remedies. You can use the swimming pool test kit or test strips that are available at supermarkets, agrishops or Takealot, they're cheap.. maybe 50 test strips for a hundred bucks. There's also aquarium 6 in 1 test strips that also indicate nitrate levels and hardness at around 160 bucks and there's 16 in 1 water quality test strips available that test for metals as well for around R350.00
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This is just rediculous!
8.1.3 NOTE In South Africa, it is a statutory requirement that every user or lessor of an electrical installation shall have a valid Certificate of Compliance (CoC) for every such installation. A CoC will only be valid when it is accompanied by a test report in the format of the test report in 8.7. From the definitions in SANS10142; 3.33 electrical installation machinery, in or on any premises, that is used for the transmission of electrical energy from a point of control (see 3.56) to a point of consumption (see 3.55) anywhere on the premises, including any article that forms part of such an installation, irrespective of whether or not it is part of the electrical circuit, but excluding a) any machinery of the supplier that is related to the supply of electricity on the premises, b) any machinery that is used for the transmission of electricity of which the voltage does not exceed 50 V, where such electricity is not derived from the main supply of a supplier, and c) any machinery that transmits electrical energy in telecommunication, television or radio circuits So if you have an off grid house and the voltage generated or distributed within the premises is 50v or less then you would be exempt from a CoC because it would no longer fulfil the definition of an 'electrical installation' under the exception provided in the definitions 3.33 paragraph b. In short regardless of whether you have an Eskom supply connection or not your house will require a CoC and all the electrical installation standards will still apply to any 230v electrical installation you have.
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Sunsynk - CT Clamp
Have you got an analogue voltmeter (old fashioned type with a needle) or a tester with a low-Z voltage range? If so redo the test and see if you get a different voltage reading.
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SA Mains Voltage Range
If your supply is single phase an increase in supply voltage could also indicate a failing neutral-earth bond somewhere in the supply cabling before it arrives at your property. When this happens the voltage between neutral and live as well as neutral and earth can rise dangerously high and destroy appliances. The easiest way to test for this is to use a multimeter and test the voltage difference between the incoming neutral and live and also between the incoming neutral and a known good earth with the main breaker switched off. Then put your DB under load ie switch on several high current appliances and make the same tests again. If the difference in results is more than a few volts there's a high liklihood of a supply issue that should be reported.
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Farm conversion to off-grid solar
Single or 3-phase is a tricky one. What equipment and appliances are you running? There's some things that are better 3-phase like motors/pumps/compressors, the single phase versions have much higher and prolonged start currents which can cause inverters to trip. Inverter air conditioning is a good way to reduce start currents. I'd suggest a full load audit where you list every single electrical appliance along with its kwh consumption, start/run currents etc. Then as Calvin suggests look at the low hanging fruit such as air con, hot water geysers, cooking stoves, halogen lighting, fridges/freezers sitting in a hot outhouse etc and see which appliances are worth replacing with gas for example or maybe even worth buying a newer version that's more efficient. Then plan your solar requirements after that.
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Be Careful of bulb type that could cause hazardous conditions
I'm all for energy conservation but LED lamps are relatively unreliable. I've still got some compact fluorescent lamps in my house and linear fluorescent tubes in my workshop which are over 10 years old and a few of them over 15 years. Even with with the epidemic of loadshedding followed by low voltage surges and generally appalling power quality these fluorescent lamps are still working fine. I wish I could say the same for LED lamps but alas they're very unreliable and it's generally down to poor design, poor build quality and built-in obsolescence. You kinda expect it if you order lamps on Amazon or AliExpress but the majority of the LED lamps available over the counter from electrical wholesalers are equally as bad and they should be ashamed of themselves. Don't get me wrong, there are well designed LED lamps with stable driver circuitry, good internal thermal management, decent power factor, good colour rendering but they're the exception rather than the rule and they're usually double if not triple the price of the rubbish options. When I was involved in relamping projects we installed hundreds of dimmable GU10 lamps in some premises and there were zero failures in the first 5 years so I know they can be reliable, it's just social, political and financial obsticles causing or allowing them to be generally unreliable. I wish they would introduce not just electrical regs to ensure good power factor, low inrush currents and built in surge protection etc but also consumer protection legislation that it's illegal to sell LED lamps that don't last at least 3 years regardless of their usage pattern. Should any LED lamp fail within 3 years the vendor / electrical wholesaler / importer that supplied it should be financially on the hook not just for a replacement lamp but also for the item return costs and any labour costs including crane or cherry picker rental if required. It should also be legislated that they're not allowed to dictate warranty validity on whether or not external surge protection is installed. What a load of horseshit. If the internal circuits of an LED lamp are well designed the risk of surge damage from supply instabilities can be adequately mitigated by decoupling control components and using stable power rails. Problem is when an electrical wholesaler attends the Beijing LED trade show and orders 100k of the cheapest LED lamps they can find the design they get means astronomically high failure rates and leaves them looking for any excuse they can find not to have to deal with the flood of warranty claims they get. Next thing you know there's small print somewhere on their website stating you're shit outta luck if your LED lamps only last 3 months because you didnt install 3 grands worth of class AB surge arrestors. Anyway, apologies in advance because not sure how much of this will be tolerated by the forum bad word filters but rant over for now.
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BOULARD LIGHTS
Apologies, this reply is a bit late, I'm guessing you may have already finished your installation. Cabtyre (I assume standard PVC and not HO5/HO7) is not great as an installation cable. It's not rated for below ground use, it's often not UV stable and as you pointed out it's fine stranded conductors so you need to ferrule the wires before any types of termination and it's also relatively expensive compared to flat twin + earth. Cabtyre current ratings are usually for trailing in free-air and often they won't give a current rating for different installation methods like in conduit because its not really meant to be used that way. That doesn't mean it contradictory to the regs however, in recent years SANS10142 has become more tolerant of this kind of cable being used in installations as long as the manufacturers instructions allows it. Just for future planning, it would be a lot cheaper and probably easier to use 1,0mm flat twin +e cable in conduit from a 6A or 10A circuit breaker. That would have been more than sufficient for the circuit you were installing which had a running current requirement of maybe 0.5-1 Amp.
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Mecer Axpert 2.4kW inverter gave up the ghost?
The Axpert inverters are pretty good considering their low price point but I'd say they're not worth fixing unless you do that kinda thing already as a hobby and fancy a challenge to keep you out of the pubs for a while. What happened to you is exactly the same issue that prompted me to join this forum (hence my profile pic) and whilst eventually I managed to repair my inverter it it was a learning curve that took enormous amounts of time and resulted in several new grey hairs a pile of blown AliExpress replacement componentss before I had sucess. I was fortunate in that I have a repair bench with an oscilloscope and test equipment, I have experience with component level board repairs and a library of information and datasheets I've collected over the decades. Even so, with hindsight it was a job I wouldn't take on again and I wouldn't recommend others attempt themselves. I can almost 100% guarantee you it won't just be the MOSFET that's failed in isolation.
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Is it illegal to share your electricity with your neighbor?
Don't run an electrical circuit outside of the boundaries of the ERF it's supplied from, it's in violation of the electrical regs and also in violation of the terms and conditions of the Eskom supply. Theres good safety resaons not to do this which without getting too technical you can cause a shock hazard by connecting adjacent equipotential earthing zones together or even having them too close to each other. It all depends what the earthing arrangements are at the properties where the circuits originate but the answer in short is no, do not run more than one circuit from different properties to supply the pump. As already mentioned you could meter the power the pump is using and just divide the cost amicably or you could pump the water into a holding tank then run 3 water pipes from there to supply the 3 properties and meter the volume of water each property uses and divide the bill up that way. Just incidentally I'd suggest you come up with an arrangement where everyone pays double what the power cost is every month and save the excess payments in an account so when the pump goes tits-up a year or two from now there's already money available towards repairs or replacing.
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Can the battery fuse holder be installed inside a trunking?
Regs are generally about broader principles rather then individual examples, there's so many ways it would be unsafe to install fuses and holders that you couldn't list them all individually in one book. The regs state that you must follow manufacturers instructions so your answer may lay in the documentation that came with the fuse holders. I would say there will be regs in the sans10142 book that also exclude this as a possible mounting location as well although I don't have a copy with me so I can't quote them off hand.
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Hot solar fuse holders?
'20°C above ambient sounds a bit high to me given it's probably running at 50-75% of its rated value. Did you also check if any ventilation slots in the fuse holder are open and clear? Depending on the design sometimes if a fuse holder is mounted horizontal it can result in reduced airflow through it therefore warmer running temps. Likewise if there's several fuseholders mounted hard against each other they'll run warmer than if there's space between them. A thermal camera is a great tool for seeing exactly where heat is being generated if you can beg or borrow one for a day. Personally I'd start by trying another fuse from a recognised brand name of the same value and see if it's still a similar temperature. If it is I'd probably replace the fuse holder with a Hager out of an abundance of caution. I prefer not to take any chances with PV panel DC wiring, if anything looks even slightly suspect I'd just replace it rather than waiting to see if it gets worse.
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Sub board earth leakage trips when on at main DB
To find an earth leakage fault I'd use a ramp tester on the E/L breaker first to test it but it's extremely rare to find one that fails. Occasionally there will be one that's a bit on the slow side on the 5x test at 0° or 180° but usually they all usually pass after they've been operated a few times. If it's an immediate trip problem I'd isolate power then split all the RCD final circuit neutrals and test each circuit individually. This test would be a 250v IR test but as mentioned by Clint you could also reconnect each circuit one by one and live test until you find the culprit. If it's an occasional tripping fault I'd do a live global leakage test at the earth leakage breaker and live leakage tests of each circuit using an earth leakage miliamp clamp meter by clamping the live and neutral simultaneously to give an indication of total leakage both down the CPC and also through parallel earth paths. The beauty of using a clamp meter and doing it as a live test is you're seeing exactly what the earth leakage breaker is seeing including functional leakage such as EMI and common mode suppressors etc as well as fault leakage due to low IR values. Doing an old fashioned megger or IR test at 250v will give you a good idea of the earth leakage due to faults but won't accurately reflect functional leakage values. Bottom line for a home owner is it's cheaper and easier to call an electrician if you can't localise the problem by unplugging appliances and visual inspection. Unfortunately finding these types of faults isn't possible with a R50.00 multimeter from Builders Warehouse, an RCD ramp tester is going to cost a minimum of R5k for the cheapest and maybe R15k for a decent one, an earth leakage clamp meter is about R15k for a decent one and even a megger tester is R5-6k for a basic analogue version. Just call a decent spark in and don't moan when he charges you 800 bucks an hour if he's arriving at the job with 30 or 40 grand of test equipment.
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Sub board earth leakage trips when on at main DB
Earth leakage breakers almost never go faulty. I'd guess that out of every couple of hundred earth leakage tripping faults one might be cause by a faulty earth leakage breaker. If there's a fault the earth leakage breaker will reset if the power to it is off then trip if the power is put back on, this is normal. Earth leakage breakers are sensitive to faults on circuits they supply even if the circuit breaker for that circuit is switched off. This is because the earth leakage is monitoring both the live and the neutral wires and the circuit breaker only disconnects the live and the neutral remains connected. If this is a new installation or if there have been changes to the installation recently then it's possibly a wiring fault within the installation. If the fault started out of the blue then it's more likely an appliance that's faulty in which case unplug all appliances completely from all sockets and see if the fault goes away. Some other things you can check are outside lights or connection boxes that might have leaked water or suffered an insect infestation. Check the geyser for water leaks or condensation where the wiring connects into it. Check for any signs of damp on the ceiling inside, maybe an internal light got wet.
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Deye SUN-5K-SG Repair Guide
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Deye SUN-5K-SG Repair Guide. 1.62MB 17 Pages PDF File Please Note; This is not an owners manual or an installation manual. It is pitched at readers with good basic electrical knowledge who need to troubleshoot or fault-find a Deye Inverter. This manual is for Deye SUN-5K-SG series, it can help service personal perform the basic maintenance and repair service. This manual focus on the service, so you should get the basic operation of the Inverter/Charger from the user manual, and make sure you had read and understood user manual before you use this service manual. -
Axpert Max II 8kw Service Manual
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Axpert Max II 8kw Service Manual Version unknown 2.94MB 29 Pages PDF File Please Note; This is not an owners manual or an installation manual. It is pitched at readers with good basic electrical knowledge who need to troubleshoot or fault-find an Axpert Inverter at component level. This manual is for Axpert Max II 8KW series, it can help service personal perform the basic maintenance and repair service. This manual focus on the service, so you should get the basic operation of the Inverter/Charger from the user manual, and make sure you had read and understood user manual before you use this service manual. Table of contents 1. GENERAL INFORMATION 1.1 GETTING START 1.2 BASIC TOPOLOGY INTRODUCTION 1.3 INVERTER FAMILY 1.4 OVERVIEW THE INVERTER 2. TROUBLESHOOTING 2.1 HOW TO DO 2.2 FAULT CONDITION 2.3 TEST STEP 3. CHECKING AND MEASURING GUIDE 3.1 CHECK THE BATTERY SIDE COMPONENTS ON MAIN BOARD 3.2 CHECK THE BUS SIDE COMPONENTS ON MAIN BOARD 3.3 CHECK THE BUCK CIRCUIT ON MAIN BOARD 3.4 CHECK THE INV FULL BRIDGE ON MAIN BOARD 3.5 CHECK BATT AND MAIN POWER SPS ON MAIN BOARD 3.6 CHECK AC SPS AND PV SPS 3.7 CHECK THE BOOST ON MPPT BOARD 4. DISASSEMBLING GUIDE TOTAL WIRING DIAGRAM: -
Axpert Max 7200 Service Manual
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Axpert Max 7200-48 Service Manual V-RDP-004-73 A 4.24MB PDF file, 29 pages Please Note; This is not an owners manual, a setup guide nor an installation manual. It is pitched at readers with good basic electrical knowledge and test equipment who need to troubleshoot or fault-find an Axpert Max 7200-48 Inverter at component level. This manual is for Voltronic Axpert Max 7200 Inverter, it can help service personal perform the basic maintenance and repair service. This manual focus on repairs and service, so you should get the basic operation of the Inverter/Charger from the user manual, and make sure you had read and understood user manual before you use this service manual. -
MPP Solar Inc AHS UPS PIP-LC 1.2-8kva Service Manual
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MPP Solar Inc AHS UPS PIP-LC 1.2-8kva Service Manual 16 Pages PDF File, 216KB Unknown origin, unverified accuracy, generally poor quality and of very limited use. This is a very basic service document that outlines topograpghy, test points and test voltages along with some limited circuit schematic drawings and blurred photos that look like they were taken by an over-caffinated three year old. When I worked on a faulty unit this was all the info I could find... I would warn in advance it's far from extensive but marginally better than nothing, classing it as a 'service manual' is somewhere between bare faced lying and click bait. If there's ever an award for worst quality upload I've alread won it with this one, the only reason I did upload it is because it helped me out at the time I needed it and other info was non existant. Enjoy, as an uploader this is not my finest hour. -
Service-Manual-Voltronic-InfiniSolar-Mecer-RCT 20-30kW
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Voltronic-InfiniSolar-Mecer-RCT 30kW Inverter Service Manual Release 11 Jan 2019 Voltronics Hybrid 20-30KW PV Inverter 5.03MB PDF file, 58 pages Please Note; This is not an owners manual, a setup guide nor an installation manual. It is pitched at readers with good basic electrical knowledge and test equipment who need to troubleshoot or fault-find a Voltronic Hybrid 30KW PV Inverter at component level. This manual is for Voltronic (AKA InfiniSolar-Mecer-RCT) Hybrid 30KW PV Inverter, it can help service personal perform the basic maintenance and repair service. This manual focus on the service, so you should get the basic operation of the Inverter/Charger from the user manual, and make sure you had read and understood user manual before you use this service manual. -
Axpert VII LV 6KW
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Axpert VII LV 6KW Charger Inverter LVX6048 service manual V0.0 5.07MB 27 Pages PDF File Please Note; This is not an owners manual or an installation manual. It is pitched at readers with good basic electrical knowledge who need to troubleshoot or fault-find an Axpert Inverter. This manual is for Axpert VII LV 6KW series, it can help service personal perform the basic maintenance and repair service. This manual focus on the service, so you should get the basic operation of the Inverter/Charger from the user manual, and make sure you had read and understood user manual before you use this service manual. Table of contents 1. General information 1.1 Getting start 1.2 Basic topology introduction 1.3 Overview the inverter 1.4 PCB overview 2. Troubleshooting 2.1 How to do .. 2.2 Check the fault information 2.3 Fault condition 2.4 Test step 3. Checking and measuring guide 3.1 Check the battery side components 3.2 Check the bus side components Check the buck circuit 3.3 Check the INV full bridge 3.4 Check the MPPT board 4. Disassembling guide 4.1 Open the case 4.2 Remove the COMM board 4.3 Remove the Relay board 4.4 Remove the control board 4.5 Remove the fan paper and the MPPT board 4.6 Remove the main board 5. Cables connection -
Axpert VM III 5000 3000 SERVICE MANUAL
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Axpert VM III 5000 3000 Service Manual V2.01 Release 22 Jan 2019 Axpert VM III-5200/VM III-3200 S1711171 V-RDP-004-73 A 33 pages pdf file 2.36MB. Please Note; This is not an owners manual, a setup guide or an installation manual. It is pitched at readers with good basic electrical knowledge and test equipment who need to troubleshoot or fault-find an Axpert VM III at component level. This manual is for Axpert VM III 5000 3000 series, it can help service personal perform the basic maintenance and repair service. This manual focus on the service, so you should get the basic operation of the Inverter/Charger from the user manual, and make sure you had read and understood user manual before you use this service manual. Table of contents 1. GENERAL INFORMATION 1.1 GETTING START 1.2 BASIC TOPOLOGY INTRODUCTION 1.3 INVERTER FAMILY 1.4 OVERVIEW THE INVERTER 2. TROUBLESHOOTING 2.1 HOW TO DO 2.2 FAULT CONDITION 2.3 TEST STEP 3. CHECKING AND MEASURING GUIDE 3.1 CHECK THE BATTERY SIDE COMPONENTS ON MAIN BOARD 3.2 CHECK THE BUS SIDE COMPONENTS ON MAIN BOARD 3.3 CHECK THE BUCK CIRCUIT ON MAIN BOARD 3.4 CHECK THE INV FULL BRIDGE ON MAIN BOARD 3.5 CHECK BATT AND MAIN POWER SPS ON MAIN BOARD 3.6 CHECK AC SPS ON MPPT BOARD 3.7 CHECK THE BUS SOFT START CIRCUIT ON MPPT BOARD (TX1: ESPECIALLY FOR 09 FAULT) 3.8 CHECK THE BOOST ON MPPT BOARD 4. DISASSEMBLING GUIDE TOTAL WIRING DIAGRAM