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Powerforum Store got a reaction from zsde in Emfuleni taxing the sun😭😭The Reality here is that it just makes more and more sense to go off grid then all you need to be compliant is a COC.
Even setting up small privately owned micro grid then starts making more sense.
My 2 cents.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Chris Louw in Emfuleni taxing the sun😭😭The Reality here is that it just makes more and more sense to go off grid then all you need to be compliant is a COC.
Even setting up small privately owned micro grid then starts making more sense.
My 2 cents.
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Powerforum Store reacted to Pho3niX90 in Sunsynk 5kw x2 or 1x 8kw/10kw.I see the argument a lot that "lightning will just fry both anyway," and yeah, a direct hit is a total loss regardless, but when last did that happen to you? Mine was more than 20years ago. But taking a page from the IT industry, we don't skip redundancy just because the data center might burn down. You build for the 99% of other failures that actually happen.
Here was my logic for going with the 2x Solis setup:
If you have one massive inverter and it pops a capacitor or has a firmware glitch, you’re in the dark. Period. With two units, I’ve got a failover. If one goes down, I still have 50% capacity, enough to keep the lights, internet, and essentials running while I sort out the RMA.
Running one inverter at its limit is a recipe for a short lifespan. Splitting the load means both units run cooler, which is the best thing you can do for the longevity of the electronics.
There’s a reason the high-end guys (Victron, etc.) are so sought after. They don’t do "all-in-one" bricks for a reason, they split the components (inverter, MPPTs, chargers). If one part fails, you don't lose the whole system. By running two inverters, I’m effectively doing the same thing: decoupling the single point of failure, although not entirely as effiecient (power wise) as victron.
I’ve now got 4 independent MPPTs. I’m not stuck with one roof orientation; I can add North, East, or West strings later without worrying about voltage mismatches. It makes scaling the PV way easier.
So @DAVID-EC , you need to make the decision on what helps now, and potentially covers the future as well. For compatibility, speak to Wimpie from powerforum, as I am sure he will be able to answer that.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in SOLIS S6 6KW ADVANCED HYBRID GIVEAWAYHello Everyone, I am pulling this review out of the archives for good reason. It is now almost 3 years later, and my long-term experience with the Solis S6 Pro inverters has been nothing but a pleasure.
These machines are incredibly reliable and robust in every aspect. I have run my full household completely off-grid on these inverters. Previously I used a Sunsynk that simply could not handle the punishment in a true off-grid scenario.
On a single 6kW unit I have successfully run:
Electric lawnmowers, chainsaws, angle grinders
Oil bath & inverter welders
Borehole pumps, drills, impact hammer drills, circulation pumps
Base load of 6 fridges/freezers, air fryer, microwave, electric geyser 2kW element, CCTV 8 cameras, computers, TV, sound system, external LED lights
12,000 BTU aircon (winter and summer)
I regularly pushed the inverter to its limits and used the 200% surge capacity for short bursts. All of this with zero noise from the inverter.
Other successful tests:
Generator integration Grid and Aux port works flawlessly and allows precise throttling of generator power draw.
2kW wind turbine on MPPT (constant voltage mode) and AC-coupled on Aux/backup port. Solis even created a special firmware to improve charging range. Their strong grid-forming capability makes them compatible with sensitive wind grid-tied inverters where others fail.
Parallel operation: Added a second 6kW unit one dedicated to PV, one to wind.
One unit was damaged during extreme experimentation Solis promptly replaced it under warranty. Their after-sales, technical support, and swap-out policy is second to none.
The Micro-Grid capability is absolutely amazing.
Internal transfer losses are almost zero.
I am deep into the experiment right now and will soon be adding a Solis 4.6kW grid-tied inverter into the micro-grid for further testing of TOU functions, charge and discharge rates, etc.
Their new Energy Management System (EMS) soon to be fully AI-powered makes perfect sense for grid-connected systems, from residential all the way to commercial solutions. It lets users set up Peak, Normal, and Off-Peak rates linked to intelligent charge and discharge schedules.
This maximises financial returns by optimising when to charge from the grid or solar, when to discharge to the loads, and when to export.
The upcoming self-learning AI mode will take it even further by automatically predicting solar generation, learning your actual consumption patterns, and making real-time decisions with minimal user input a big step forward for effortless optimisation. Up to this point I can only applaud Solis for a true Tier 1 product in every aspect.
The ability to create a micro-grid with their Hybrid inverters opens up huge potential for users who have multiple houses or buildings on the same property, with distributed batteries, inverters, PV, generator, or wind power systems all running seamlessly together on the same micro-grid.
Firmware upgrades are mostly for new features and battery compatibility.
The system has been so stable I went over a year without updates at times true “install and forget” performance in normal use.
I am now running an 8kW Solis Pro as the grid-forming master for my 6kW Solis Pro using CT clamp from the 6kW on the 8kW backup output. Each has its own battery bank and power source.
I am also planning a formal review of the Solis 5kW Off-Grid models soon.
Strong note: these are currently the only off-grid inverters that are NRS certified. We will be asking Solis for some units to give away.
Highly recommended!
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from LumexClipsal in SOLIS S6 6KW ADVANCED HYBRID GIVEAWAYHello Everyone, I am pulling this review out of the archives for good reason. It is now almost 3 years later, and my long-term experience with the Solis S6 Pro inverters has been nothing but a pleasure.
These machines are incredibly reliable and robust in every aspect. I have run my full household completely off-grid on these inverters. Previously I used a Sunsynk that simply could not handle the punishment in a true off-grid scenario.
On a single 6kW unit I have successfully run:
Electric lawnmowers, chainsaws, angle grinders
Oil bath & inverter welders
Borehole pumps, drills, impact hammer drills, circulation pumps
Base load of 6 fridges/freezers, air fryer, microwave, electric geyser 2kW element, CCTV 8 cameras, computers, TV, sound system, external LED lights
12,000 BTU aircon (winter and summer)
I regularly pushed the inverter to its limits and used the 200% surge capacity for short bursts. All of this with zero noise from the inverter.
Other successful tests:
Generator integration Grid and Aux port works flawlessly and allows precise throttling of generator power draw.
2kW wind turbine on MPPT (constant voltage mode) and AC-coupled on Aux/backup port. Solis even created a special firmware to improve charging range. Their strong grid-forming capability makes them compatible with sensitive wind grid-tied inverters where others fail.
Parallel operation: Added a second 6kW unit one dedicated to PV, one to wind.
One unit was damaged during extreme experimentation Solis promptly replaced it under warranty. Their after-sales, technical support, and swap-out policy is second to none.
The Micro-Grid capability is absolutely amazing.
Internal transfer losses are almost zero.
I am deep into the experiment right now and will soon be adding a Solis 4.6kW grid-tied inverter into the micro-grid for further testing of TOU functions, charge and discharge rates, etc.
Their new Energy Management System (EMS) soon to be fully AI-powered makes perfect sense for grid-connected systems, from residential all the way to commercial solutions. It lets users set up Peak, Normal, and Off-Peak rates linked to intelligent charge and discharge schedules.
This maximises financial returns by optimising when to charge from the grid or solar, when to discharge to the loads, and when to export.
The upcoming self-learning AI mode will take it even further by automatically predicting solar generation, learning your actual consumption patterns, and making real-time decisions with minimal user input a big step forward for effortless optimisation. Up to this point I can only applaud Solis for a true Tier 1 product in every aspect.
The ability to create a micro-grid with their Hybrid inverters opens up huge potential for users who have multiple houses or buildings on the same property, with distributed batteries, inverters, PV, generator, or wind power systems all running seamlessly together on the same micro-grid.
Firmware upgrades are mostly for new features and battery compatibility.
The system has been so stable I went over a year without updates at times true “install and forget” performance in normal use.
I am now running an 8kW Solis Pro as the grid-forming master for my 6kW Solis Pro using CT clamp from the 6kW on the 8kW backup output. Each has its own battery bank and power source.
I am also planning a formal review of the Solis 5kW Off-Grid models soon.
Strong note: these are currently the only off-grid inverters that are NRS certified. We will be asking Solis for some units to give away.
Highly recommended!
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Energy-Jason in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupAM16+ First Impressions After a Few Days
Very Impressive So Far Hello Everyone,So I have been running the AM16+ for a couple of days now and I must say what impresses me the most is the efficiency of the battery.
I am consistently getting round-trip efficiency of 97% that’s excellent. As many of you know, I am 100% off-grid with a well-performing
Micro-Grid setup:
The 8kW Solis is the grid-forming / load-bearing inverter with the old 30kWh AM2 battery bank + PV.
The Solis 6kW sees the 8kW as grid no connection to its backup port and currently has the AM16+ connected with the wind turbine.
Last night I ran an experiment from 7 PM to this morning to test how well the AM16+ would handle my nighttime loads with only wind as the supplementary energy source good wind conditions last night. AM2 Bank (8kW Inverter):
As you can see, the SOC and discharge on the AM2 bank stayed very stable from 7PM to 7AM. Once solar production kicked in this morning, it started charging the AM2 bank again.AM16+ Performance (6kW Inverter):
The AM16+ carried all the nighttime loads. Even with wind power injecting into the system, the discharge curve is remarkably flat and stable.
It held nicely around 72% SOC overnight and has already recovered to 87% SOC this morning.
Very impressed so far!
Out of interest this is how the SOLIS CLOUD sees the Micro grid it combines the PV and Wind Yield the grid import you see is there to prevent the 6KW from Exporting into the 8KW limiting to the load on the 8KW backup port. It Also shows the combined SOC of the two separate battery banks.
Update on AM5+ Parallel Testing with Old AM2 Bank
I had a long discussion with the Hubble Energy engineers regarding running the AM5+ in parallel with my old AM2 bank. They mentioned we may have some capacity issues due to the different battery chemistries (NMC vs LFP) and voltage ranges. We are still going ahead with the tests for educational purposes to show what is possible.
I will test both configurations:
AM5+ as the master battery
AM2 bank as the master battery
I’ll report back with the results of both setups.I’ll keep sharing more data as the testing continues Cloudlink graphs, parallel testing, different load scenarios, etc.
Any specific questions or things you’d like me to monitor/test next?
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Solis Inverters SA in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Powerforum members,
Hubble Energy will be sending me one Hubble Energy AM16+ (16.1kWh) and one AM5+ (5.12kWh) for extended real-world testing and review.
These are part of their current LV Range which includes:
AM-2 – Popular 5.5kWh 51V NMC battery 1C rating, proven long-term performer.
AM-4 – Compact 2.56–2.75kWh 25.6V wall-mount battery with 1C rating.
AM-5+ – 5.12kWh 51.2V LFP with built-in Cloudlink, 1C rating and RGB display.
AM10+ – Larger 10kWh+ model in the + series with advanced features.
AM16+ – High-capacity 16.1kWh floor-standing LFP with wheels, built-in Cloudlink and high discharge capability.
S-100A – 12V 100Ah (1.2kWh) compact lithium battery.
X-5+ (New X-101) – Newer generation Rack Mounted 5.5kWh model with updated features.
X-101 – Established Rack Mounted 5.5kWh 51V model, widely used in hybrid systems.
Note:
Hubble Energy also has a very exciting HV Range, but this review will focus 100% on the LV Range especially for members who already own Hubble batteries or are considering them.
Hubble Energy will also soon release the new AM-2+, which keeps the same NMC technology as the existing AM-2 models but adds built-in Cloudlink and several extra features.
My Setup:
Main system: Solis S6 8kW Pro Hybrid (master) with a Solis S6 6kW Pro seeing the 8kW as “grid”
AC-coupled: Enphase micro-inverters + Solis S5 4.6kW grid-tied inverter on the Aux port of the 8kW
2kW Wind turbine on the Solis S6 6kW MPPT in constant voltage mode
Separate Solis 5kW Off-Grid inverter for additional testing
Existing battery bank: 7 × Hubble AM2 (mixed ages – oldest >5 years old)
AM2 cycle counts right now:
1411 | 1036 | 880 | 853 | 805 | 737 | 595 cycles Total bank health still at 99% – very impressive for the age mix.
What I’ll be Testing:
Daily cycling and performance of the AM16+ and AM5+ on the Solis S6 6kW and the 5kW Off-Grid inverter
Parallel operation between the new + series and my existing AM2 bank (old model compatibility is a big claim)
Mixing different aged AM2 batteries and different capacities with the new units
Compatibility with multiple inverter brands/configurations
Cross-brand testing – insider info from a senior Hubble engineer says the new Plus range can work with almost any other battery brand
Full use of the built-in Hubble Cloudlink (I have unit #388)
I’ll also be highlighting the exciting new ergonomic and safety features:
Wheels on the AM16+ for easy movement
Magnetic panels that neatly hide all internal cables
Front-accessible BMS and critical components for simpler maintenance
Active cooling, fire suppression, and more
The unlimited cycle warranty on these new models is particularly attractive and will be closely monitored during long-term testing.I’ll be doing a detailed initial short-term review followed by ongoing long-term data over the coming months.
Expect real numbers on efficiency, temperature performance, charge/discharge behaviour, Cloudlink functionality, noise, installation, display readability, and real-world interaction with wind + AC-coupled solar.
We will also speak nicely to Hubble Energy and ask if they can provide some products for a lucky draw / giveaway for Powerforum members.
If you have any testing requests (particular charge profiles, high-load scenarios, Cloudlink screenshots, parallel comms behaviour, etc.), please reply in this thread. I’ll try to cover as many as possible.
Product links:
AM5+
AM16+
This should be a very thorough and transparent review for the Hubble community.
Looking forward to sharing the results with everyone.
Cheers, @Powerforum Store
Hubble Energy AM5+ Brochure V1.2.pdf Hubble Energy AM16+ Brochure V2.3.pdf
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Solis Inverters SA in SOLIS S6 6KW ADVANCED HYBRID GIVEAWAYHello Everyone, I am pulling this review out of the archives for good reason. It is now almost 3 years later, and my long-term experience with the Solis S6 Pro inverters has been nothing but a pleasure.
These machines are incredibly reliable and robust in every aspect. I have run my full household completely off-grid on these inverters. Previously I used a Sunsynk that simply could not handle the punishment in a true off-grid scenario.
On a single 6kW unit I have successfully run:
Electric lawnmowers, chainsaws, angle grinders
Oil bath & inverter welders
Borehole pumps, drills, impact hammer drills, circulation pumps
Base load of 6 fridges/freezers, air fryer, microwave, electric geyser 2kW element, CCTV 8 cameras, computers, TV, sound system, external LED lights
12,000 BTU aircon (winter and summer)
I regularly pushed the inverter to its limits and used the 200% surge capacity for short bursts. All of this with zero noise from the inverter.
Other successful tests:
Generator integration Grid and Aux port works flawlessly and allows precise throttling of generator power draw.
2kW wind turbine on MPPT (constant voltage mode) and AC-coupled on Aux/backup port. Solis even created a special firmware to improve charging range. Their strong grid-forming capability makes them compatible with sensitive wind grid-tied inverters where others fail.
Parallel operation: Added a second 6kW unit one dedicated to PV, one to wind.
One unit was damaged during extreme experimentation Solis promptly replaced it under warranty. Their after-sales, technical support, and swap-out policy is second to none.
The Micro-Grid capability is absolutely amazing.
Internal transfer losses are almost zero.
I am deep into the experiment right now and will soon be adding a Solis 4.6kW grid-tied inverter into the micro-grid for further testing of TOU functions, charge and discharge rates, etc.
Their new Energy Management System (EMS) soon to be fully AI-powered makes perfect sense for grid-connected systems, from residential all the way to commercial solutions. It lets users set up Peak, Normal, and Off-Peak rates linked to intelligent charge and discharge schedules.
This maximises financial returns by optimising when to charge from the grid or solar, when to discharge to the loads, and when to export.
The upcoming self-learning AI mode will take it even further by automatically predicting solar generation, learning your actual consumption patterns, and making real-time decisions with minimal user input a big step forward for effortless optimisation. Up to this point I can only applaud Solis for a true Tier 1 product in every aspect.
The ability to create a micro-grid with their Hybrid inverters opens up huge potential for users who have multiple houses or buildings on the same property, with distributed batteries, inverters, PV, generator, or wind power systems all running seamlessly together on the same micro-grid.
Firmware upgrades are mostly for new features and battery compatibility.
The system has been so stable I went over a year without updates at times true “install and forget” performance in normal use.
I am now running an 8kW Solis Pro as the grid-forming master for my 6kW Solis Pro using CT clamp from the 6kW on the 8kW backup output. Each has its own battery bank and power source.
I am also planning a formal review of the Solis 5kW Off-Grid models soon.
Strong note: these are currently the only off-grid inverters that are NRS certified. We will be asking Solis for some units to give away.
Highly recommended!
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Energy-Jason in SOLIS S6 6KW ADVANCED HYBRID GIVEAWAYHello Everyone, I am pulling this review out of the archives for good reason. It is now almost 3 years later, and my long-term experience with the Solis S6 Pro inverters has been nothing but a pleasure.
These machines are incredibly reliable and robust in every aspect. I have run my full household completely off-grid on these inverters. Previously I used a Sunsynk that simply could not handle the punishment in a true off-grid scenario.
On a single 6kW unit I have successfully run:
Electric lawnmowers, chainsaws, angle grinders
Oil bath & inverter welders
Borehole pumps, drills, impact hammer drills, circulation pumps
Base load of 6 fridges/freezers, air fryer, microwave, electric geyser 2kW element, CCTV 8 cameras, computers, TV, sound system, external LED lights
12,000 BTU aircon (winter and summer)
I regularly pushed the inverter to its limits and used the 200% surge capacity for short bursts. All of this with zero noise from the inverter.
Other successful tests:
Generator integration Grid and Aux port works flawlessly and allows precise throttling of generator power draw.
2kW wind turbine on MPPT (constant voltage mode) and AC-coupled on Aux/backup port. Solis even created a special firmware to improve charging range. Their strong grid-forming capability makes them compatible with sensitive wind grid-tied inverters where others fail.
Parallel operation: Added a second 6kW unit one dedicated to PV, one to wind.
One unit was damaged during extreme experimentation Solis promptly replaced it under warranty. Their after-sales, technical support, and swap-out policy is second to none.
The Micro-Grid capability is absolutely amazing.
Internal transfer losses are almost zero.
I am deep into the experiment right now and will soon be adding a Solis 4.6kW grid-tied inverter into the micro-grid for further testing of TOU functions, charge and discharge rates, etc.
Their new Energy Management System (EMS) soon to be fully AI-powered makes perfect sense for grid-connected systems, from residential all the way to commercial solutions. It lets users set up Peak, Normal, and Off-Peak rates linked to intelligent charge and discharge schedules.
This maximises financial returns by optimising when to charge from the grid or solar, when to discharge to the loads, and when to export.
The upcoming self-learning AI mode will take it even further by automatically predicting solar generation, learning your actual consumption patterns, and making real-time decisions with minimal user input a big step forward for effortless optimisation. Up to this point I can only applaud Solis for a true Tier 1 product in every aspect.
The ability to create a micro-grid with their Hybrid inverters opens up huge potential for users who have multiple houses or buildings on the same property, with distributed batteries, inverters, PV, generator, or wind power systems all running seamlessly together on the same micro-grid.
Firmware upgrades are mostly for new features and battery compatibility.
The system has been so stable I went over a year without updates at times true “install and forget” performance in normal use.
I am now running an 8kW Solis Pro as the grid-forming master for my 6kW Solis Pro using CT clamp from the 6kW on the 8kW backup output. Each has its own battery bank and power source.
I am also planning a formal review of the Solis 5kW Off-Grid models soon.
Strong note: these are currently the only off-grid inverters that are NRS certified. We will be asking Solis for some units to give away.
Highly recommended!
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from demaniak in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupAM16+ First Impressions After a Few Days
Very Impressive So Far Hello Everyone,So I have been running the AM16+ for a couple of days now and I must say what impresses me the most is the efficiency of the battery.
I am consistently getting round-trip efficiency of 97% that’s excellent. As many of you know, I am 100% off-grid with a well-performing
Micro-Grid setup:
The 8kW Solis is the grid-forming / load-bearing inverter with the old 30kWh AM2 battery bank + PV.
The Solis 6kW sees the 8kW as grid no connection to its backup port and currently has the AM16+ connected with the wind turbine.
Last night I ran an experiment from 7 PM to this morning to test how well the AM16+ would handle my nighttime loads with only wind as the supplementary energy source good wind conditions last night. AM2 Bank (8kW Inverter):
As you can see, the SOC and discharge on the AM2 bank stayed very stable from 7PM to 7AM. Once solar production kicked in this morning, it started charging the AM2 bank again.AM16+ Performance (6kW Inverter):
The AM16+ carried all the nighttime loads. Even with wind power injecting into the system, the discharge curve is remarkably flat and stable.
It held nicely around 72% SOC overnight and has already recovered to 87% SOC this morning.
Very impressed so far!
Out of interest this is how the SOLIS CLOUD sees the Micro grid it combines the PV and Wind Yield the grid import you see is there to prevent the 6KW from Exporting into the 8KW limiting to the load on the 8KW backup port. It Also shows the combined SOC of the two separate battery banks.
Update on AM5+ Parallel Testing with Old AM2 Bank
I had a long discussion with the Hubble Energy engineers regarding running the AM5+ in parallel with my old AM2 bank. They mentioned we may have some capacity issues due to the different battery chemistries (NMC vs LFP) and voltage ranges. We are still going ahead with the tests for educational purposes to show what is possible.
I will test both configurations:
AM5+ as the master battery
AM2 bank as the master battery
I’ll report back with the results of both setups.I’ll keep sharing more data as the testing continues Cloudlink graphs, parallel testing, different load scenarios, etc.
Any specific questions or things you’d like me to monitor/test next?
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I am actually following that thread with interest :)
The Hubble AM16+ is currently looking like very good value for money.
The local support angle makes it even more attractive - BYD really screwed me over on that front.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Jacques Ester in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupAM16+ First Impressions After a Few Days
Very Impressive So Far Hello Everyone,So I have been running the AM16+ for a couple of days now and I must say what impresses me the most is the efficiency of the battery.
I am consistently getting round-trip efficiency of 97% that’s excellent. As many of you know, I am 100% off-grid with a well-performing
Micro-Grid setup:
The 8kW Solis is the grid-forming / load-bearing inverter with the old 30kWh AM2 battery bank + PV.
The Solis 6kW sees the 8kW as grid no connection to its backup port and currently has the AM16+ connected with the wind turbine.
Last night I ran an experiment from 7 PM to this morning to test how well the AM16+ would handle my nighttime loads with only wind as the supplementary energy source good wind conditions last night. AM2 Bank (8kW Inverter):
As you can see, the SOC and discharge on the AM2 bank stayed very stable from 7PM to 7AM. Once solar production kicked in this morning, it started charging the AM2 bank again.AM16+ Performance (6kW Inverter):
The AM16+ carried all the nighttime loads. Even with wind power injecting into the system, the discharge curve is remarkably flat and stable.
It held nicely around 72% SOC overnight and has already recovered to 87% SOC this morning.
Very impressed so far!
Out of interest this is how the SOLIS CLOUD sees the Micro grid it combines the PV and Wind Yield the grid import you see is there to prevent the 6KW from Exporting into the 8KW limiting to the load on the 8KW backup port. It Also shows the combined SOC of the two separate battery banks.
Update on AM5+ Parallel Testing with Old AM2 Bank
I had a long discussion with the Hubble Energy engineers regarding running the AM5+ in parallel with my old AM2 bank. They mentioned we may have some capacity issues due to the different battery chemistries (NMC vs LFP) and voltage ranges. We are still going ahead with the tests for educational purposes to show what is possible.
I will test both configurations:
AM5+ as the master battery
AM2 bank as the master battery
I’ll report back with the results of both setups.I’ll keep sharing more data as the testing continues Cloudlink graphs, parallel testing, different load scenarios, etc.
Any specific questions or things you’d like me to monitor/test next?
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from zsde in Deye Inverter with (older) BYD Battery-Box Pro 2.5 batteryGreat news
Voltage mode will work fine without risk of damage and I am sure the Deye will keep loads at bay until you can make a plan on the battery these new 16KW batteries are pretty impressive and there are a few decent units under different brands available I am busy testing the Hubble AM16+ and its pretty decent there are other solid brands like the Kynee that we are also getting great feedback and will be reviewing soon and the New Pylontech Fidus is IP65 and also seems like a solid unit have not tested it yet but hope to soon.
Typically installers know the products they punt and not always interested in things outside of their realm of what they know.
Regards
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from demaniak in Deye Inverter with (older) BYD Battery-Box Pro 2.5 batteryGreat news
Voltage mode will work fine without risk of damage and I am sure the Deye will keep loads at bay until you can make a plan on the battery these new 16KW batteries are pretty impressive and there are a few decent units under different brands available I am busy testing the Hubble AM16+ and its pretty decent there are other solid brands like the Kynee that we are also getting great feedback and will be reviewing soon and the New Pylontech Fidus is IP65 and also seems like a solid unit have not tested it yet but hope to soon.
Typically installers know the products they punt and not always interested in things outside of their realm of what they know.
Regards
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from demaniak in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Powerforum members,
Hubble Energy will be sending me one Hubble Energy AM16+ (16.1kWh) and one AM5+ (5.12kWh) for extended real-world testing and review.
These are part of their current LV Range which includes:
AM-2 – Popular 5.5kWh 51V NMC battery 1C rating, proven long-term performer.
AM-4 – Compact 2.56–2.75kWh 25.6V wall-mount battery with 1C rating.
AM-5+ – 5.12kWh 51.2V LFP with built-in Cloudlink, 1C rating and RGB display.
AM10+ – Larger 10kWh+ model in the + series with advanced features.
AM16+ – High-capacity 16.1kWh floor-standing LFP with wheels, built-in Cloudlink and high discharge capability.
S-100A – 12V 100Ah (1.2kWh) compact lithium battery.
X-5+ (New X-101) – Newer generation Rack Mounted 5.5kWh model with updated features.
X-101 – Established Rack Mounted 5.5kWh 51V model, widely used in hybrid systems.
Note:
Hubble Energy also has a very exciting HV Range, but this review will focus 100% on the LV Range especially for members who already own Hubble batteries or are considering them.
Hubble Energy will also soon release the new AM-2+, which keeps the same NMC technology as the existing AM-2 models but adds built-in Cloudlink and several extra features.
My Setup:
Main system: Solis S6 8kW Pro Hybrid (master) with a Solis S6 6kW Pro seeing the 8kW as “grid”
AC-coupled: Enphase micro-inverters + Solis S5 4.6kW grid-tied inverter on the Aux port of the 8kW
2kW Wind turbine on the Solis S6 6kW MPPT in constant voltage mode
Separate Solis 5kW Off-Grid inverter for additional testing
Existing battery bank: 7 × Hubble AM2 (mixed ages – oldest >5 years old)
AM2 cycle counts right now:
1411 | 1036 | 880 | 853 | 805 | 737 | 595 cycles Total bank health still at 99% – very impressive for the age mix.
What I’ll be Testing:
Daily cycling and performance of the AM16+ and AM5+ on the Solis S6 6kW and the 5kW Off-Grid inverter
Parallel operation between the new + series and my existing AM2 bank (old model compatibility is a big claim)
Mixing different aged AM2 batteries and different capacities with the new units
Compatibility with multiple inverter brands/configurations
Cross-brand testing – insider info from a senior Hubble engineer says the new Plus range can work with almost any other battery brand
Full use of the built-in Hubble Cloudlink (I have unit #388)
I’ll also be highlighting the exciting new ergonomic and safety features:
Wheels on the AM16+ for easy movement
Magnetic panels that neatly hide all internal cables
Front-accessible BMS and critical components for simpler maintenance
Active cooling, fire suppression, and more
The unlimited cycle warranty on these new models is particularly attractive and will be closely monitored during long-term testing.I’ll be doing a detailed initial short-term review followed by ongoing long-term data over the coming months.
Expect real numbers on efficiency, temperature performance, charge/discharge behaviour, Cloudlink functionality, noise, installation, display readability, and real-world interaction with wind + AC-coupled solar.
We will also speak nicely to Hubble Energy and ask if they can provide some products for a lucky draw / giveaway for Powerforum members.
If you have any testing requests (particular charge profiles, high-load scenarios, Cloudlink screenshots, parallel comms behaviour, etc.), please reply in this thread. I’ll try to cover as many as possible.
Product links:
AM5+
AM16+
This should be a very thorough and transparent review for the Hubble community.
Looking forward to sharing the results with everyone.
Cheers, @Powerforum Store
Hubble Energy AM5+ Brochure V1.2.pdf Hubble Energy AM16+ Brochure V2.3.pdf
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from demaniak in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Everyone Just a quick update
I’m still waiting on some detailed information regarding the parallel configuration for the Hubble batteries.
One of the really nice things about the Cloudlink is that it gives Hubble engineers deep access to BMS data.
This means they can remotely assess the health of each individual pack in a large bank. In my setup, this feature helped us identify an issue with one of my very old AM2 packs early, allowing a smooth warranty repair before it failed completely.
Without Cloudlink I would only have noticed once performance dropped significantly.
This proves how useful the Cloudlink is for both owners and support teams it enables proactive troubleshooting without site visits.
Initial Efficiency Comparison (24-hour cycle data)I ran some analysis on the old 6× AM2 bank (NMC) versus the new AM16+ (LFP).
The results are quite promising:
AM16+ light charging limited to 2.6 kW 97% round-trip efficiency.
Older 6× AM2 bank 92% round-trip efficiency.
That’s impressive for a bank of its age.
Factors to consider:
The AM16+ has lower internal losses larger consolidated cells, fewer interconnections.
The older bank has additional losses from battery cables, busbars, and more connections.
Chemistry difference plays a big role: LFP is inherently more efficient than NMC.
On-paper comparison:
NMC: 88–94% RTE
LFP: 94–98% RTE
This matches the real data I’m seeing.
Cycle Life Perspective Lab vs Real World Lab-tested 1C, 100% DoD:
NMC: 2,000 – 4,000 cycles
LFP: 6,000 – 10,000+ cycles
In real solar applications with lower C-rates and partial DoD:
NMC My AM2s: Likely 8–12+ years total 6,000+ equivalent cycles
LFP AM16+: Very likely 15–20+ years 10,000+ equivalent cycles
This is exactly why Hubble offers an unlimited cycle warranty on the new + series it’s realistic for LFP in proper solar use.
Looking forward to more detailed parallel testing once I have the configuration info.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from sproete_za in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Powerforum members,
Hubble Energy will be sending me one Hubble Energy AM16+ (16.1kWh) and one AM5+ (5.12kWh) for extended real-world testing and review.
These are part of their current LV Range which includes:
AM-2 – Popular 5.5kWh 51V NMC battery 1C rating, proven long-term performer.
AM-4 – Compact 2.56–2.75kWh 25.6V wall-mount battery with 1C rating.
AM-5+ – 5.12kWh 51.2V LFP with built-in Cloudlink, 1C rating and RGB display.
AM10+ – Larger 10kWh+ model in the + series with advanced features.
AM16+ – High-capacity 16.1kWh floor-standing LFP with wheels, built-in Cloudlink and high discharge capability.
S-100A – 12V 100Ah (1.2kWh) compact lithium battery.
X-5+ (New X-101) – Newer generation Rack Mounted 5.5kWh model with updated features.
X-101 – Established Rack Mounted 5.5kWh 51V model, widely used in hybrid systems.
Note:
Hubble Energy also has a very exciting HV Range, but this review will focus 100% on the LV Range especially for members who already own Hubble batteries or are considering them.
Hubble Energy will also soon release the new AM-2+, which keeps the same NMC technology as the existing AM-2 models but adds built-in Cloudlink and several extra features.
My Setup:
Main system: Solis S6 8kW Pro Hybrid (master) with a Solis S6 6kW Pro seeing the 8kW as “grid”
AC-coupled: Enphase micro-inverters + Solis S5 4.6kW grid-tied inverter on the Aux port of the 8kW
2kW Wind turbine on the Solis S6 6kW MPPT in constant voltage mode
Separate Solis 5kW Off-Grid inverter for additional testing
Existing battery bank: 7 × Hubble AM2 (mixed ages – oldest >5 years old)
AM2 cycle counts right now:
1411 | 1036 | 880 | 853 | 805 | 737 | 595 cycles Total bank health still at 99% – very impressive for the age mix.
What I’ll be Testing:
Daily cycling and performance of the AM16+ and AM5+ on the Solis S6 6kW and the 5kW Off-Grid inverter
Parallel operation between the new + series and my existing AM2 bank (old model compatibility is a big claim)
Mixing different aged AM2 batteries and different capacities with the new units
Compatibility with multiple inverter brands/configurations
Cross-brand testing – insider info from a senior Hubble engineer says the new Plus range can work with almost any other battery brand
Full use of the built-in Hubble Cloudlink (I have unit #388)
I’ll also be highlighting the exciting new ergonomic and safety features:
Wheels on the AM16+ for easy movement
Magnetic panels that neatly hide all internal cables
Front-accessible BMS and critical components for simpler maintenance
Active cooling, fire suppression, and more
The unlimited cycle warranty on these new models is particularly attractive and will be closely monitored during long-term testing.I’ll be doing a detailed initial short-term review followed by ongoing long-term data over the coming months.
Expect real numbers on efficiency, temperature performance, charge/discharge behaviour, Cloudlink functionality, noise, installation, display readability, and real-world interaction with wind + AC-coupled solar.
We will also speak nicely to Hubble Energy and ask if they can provide some products for a lucky draw / giveaway for Powerforum members.
If you have any testing requests (particular charge profiles, high-load scenarios, Cloudlink screenshots, parallel comms behaviour, etc.), please reply in this thread. I’ll try to cover as many as possible.
Product links:
AM5+
AM16+
This should be a very thorough and transparent review for the Hubble community.
Looking forward to sharing the results with everyone.
Cheers, @Powerforum Store
Hubble Energy AM5+ Brochure V1.2.pdf Hubble Energy AM16+ Brochure V2.3.pdf
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Energy-Jason in KNY-P51300 15.36kWh Floor-Type LiFePO4 Battery – Excellent Value at R29 095 VAT Incl. (Excl. Delivery)Yes, the KNY-P51300 has a smart/active BMS that supports adjustments, but with some practical limitations.
Key Details:
Max Charge Voltage: Fixed/recommended at 58V (typical for 16S LiFePO4), with a hard max of 58.4V. The BMS has built-in over-charge protection at this level. You cannot freely "dial in" a custom max voltage like on some open JK/Seplos DIY BMS units.
The inverter (Sunsynk) will control charging voltage, and the BMS will protect if it exceeds safe limits.
SOC% Adjustments & Full Charge Behaviour:
The BMS calculates SOC based on voltage, current, and coulomb counting. It typically reports 100% SOC once it reaches the absorption voltage (around 58V) and current tapers off.
Many users can fine-tune SOC calibration indirectly via the inverter settings or (if available) Bluetooth/WiFi app for the BMS. It has active balancing and protections that help it reach true full SOC reliably.
Full 100% adjustments are not as flexible as premium DIY BMS (no arbitrary SOC offset in most cases), but it performs well for "full" cycles when the inverter is set correctly.
In Practice with Your Sunsynk Setup:
With CAN communication working, the inverter reads the BMS SOC directly and follows its guidance you set your desired min/max SOC% in the Sunsynk menus (e.g., charge to 95-100%, discharge to 20%).
Without perfect comms, fall back to user-defined voltage settings on the inverter (e.g., bulk/absorb 56-57V, float ~54V).
Overall: It’s a good “set and forget” smart BMS for most residential users, but not as tweakable as high-end programmable ones. If you need very precise custom voltage/SOC tuning, a different battery or external BMS might be better.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in New to Solar - Trying to decide how best to spec a systemHello Hennie
The Pro Models are the first line of S6 Hybrid inverters they do not have display screens on the inverter and use Bluetooth, Lan and WIFI via the Solis Cloud app for config and setup these are the 3.6, 5, 6 and 8 KW LV Models. All HV models have display screens. They also have the very wide range MPPT units that start producing at 90VDC and has a maximum voltage of 600VDC.
As an example the 6 KW Unit for the pro model can produce 9.6 KW PV on its two MPPT's
They all have an IP66 Rating and has all the feature sets like AFCI 200% Load for 10 Seconds 4ms changeover AC Coupling Generator integration on AUX port or grid with signal and auto start and they truly blend power like Victron and a lot more.
They all come with a standard 10 year warranty.
The newer Solis Plus Models have large display screens on the front of the inverters for the 5, 6, and 8 KW Solis introduced the screens due to user demand they still have Bluetooth Lan and WIFI.
They also have all the feature sets like the older model with some extras like the large display their MPPT's wake up at 89VDC and produce at 90VDC but is limited to 500VDC however their PV capacity is 200% of the inverter rating so the 6 KW Unit can produce 12KW from its two MPPT's
These models all come standard with a 10 year Warranty 5, 6 and 8 KW units however the larger LV models 12 14 16 KW units have a standard 5 Year warranty with a warranty extension option up to 25 years (to be confirmed) the 10 year extension is available some distributors sell these models with the extended 10 year warranty included but there will be a marked price difference so be aware of that when buying the larger models this also applies to the HV Models standard 5 Year warranty with some Distributors selling 10 year warranty models.
We try to sell mainly 10 year warranty models we constantly have to check the prices to ensure the model we are selling is 10 Year if not we will let the buyer decide if he wants a 5 Year or 10 Year warranty machine.
Important point on the Solis Warranty is that its a Swap out warranty and NOT a repair warranty. Their turnaround time is fast and efficient with no unnecessary delays.
As a Comparison Currently have a client with a Sunsynk inverter where the inverter was sent back for warranty repair its now 1 month and 2 weeks and we still have no feedback on if the inverter will be repaired under warranty or not needless to say the client is freaking out.
All of the Solis inverters are NRS097 Approved and Solis Brand is a Tier 1 Inverter brand Sunsynk / Deye for example are Tier 2 Inverter brands.
We just recently sold a system to a client that included 2 x 6 KW solis pro Inverters 24 x 460 Watt JA Solar Bi Facial panels with roof mountings and 2 x 15.3 KW Active BMS batteries and all the cable and required accessories for around R113 000 EX Vat and that included delivery to his doorstep. In my opinion that is a very robust system at a very reasonable price.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in New to Solar - Trying to decide how best to spec a systemHi there and welcome to Powerforum! Great first post with solid details on your 15–20 kWh daily usage, 5.9 kW peak, north-facing unshaded roof, and R150k target. You're in a strong position for excellent energy independence in Joburg.Recommended Setup Optimised for Your Needs.
Inverter: Solis LV Hybrid 8 kW (highly recommended) or 12 kW if you want extra headroom.
Battery: Kynee 15.3 kWh or 2× for ~30 kWh total the price jump is often small and worth it for extra autonomy.
Panels: 12–14 × 550–650 W Tier 1 bifacial (JA Solar, Trina, Longi with BC tech, or Canadian Solar) for a ~7–9 kW array. Your unshaded north-facing roof is perfect use multiple MPPTs e.g., 2 strings north + 1 east for maximum yield.
This setup should cover your modest usage comfortably on sunny days and during loadshedding, with room to expand.
Maximising Efficiency Tip: Slightly oversize the PV array and swap your geyser element to 2 kW. This lets excess daytime solar run the geyser far more effectively.
Total installed cost: Realistic R130k–R150k fully done cabling, DBs, CoC, etc.
Why Solis is the Superior Choice While many members recommend Sunsynk or Deye mainly because they’re very familiar with those products, the Solis LV Hybrid is far superior in almost every practical aspect for a residential install like yours:
BloombergNEF Tier 1 manufacturer top global ranking with proven bankability, stronger reliability, and better support for banks/insurers/property value.
Standard 10-year warranty on the LV 5/6/8 kW models.
Advanced power blending similar to Victron seamlessly mixes PV, battery, and grid power.
Generator integration on either utility or backup port with auto-start.
AC coupling support with frequency shifting for easy future expansion.
Impressive overload capability runs 200% load for 10 seconds.
Ultra-fast 4 ms changeover time.
Superior MPPTs support larger arrays, lower startup and production voltage, wider voltage range, and built-in Arc Fault Detection (AFD). If an arc is detected, the inverter automatically switches off the affected MPPT to prevent fires.
Better compatibility with modern panels: Deye and Sunsynk have known limitations with larger capacity / higher current modules (maximum amps per string), which can damage their MPPTs. Many installers are not fully aware of this risk. Solis handles the latest high-power bifacial panels without issue.
Newer panels are almost all bifacial (some with BC tech like Longi), offering higher efficiency, easier cleaning and maintenance, and greater rigidity thanks to the double-glass configuration.
All of this comes at a noticeably better price point while delivering premium performance.
Battery Choice & RedundancyKynee 15.3 kWh (Chilwee Group) LFP chemistry with a true active smart BMS one of the few in SA with active balancing.
Decent quality batteries like the Kynee with active BMS are far less likely to fail than older or passive-BMS models. The active balancing keeps cells in perfect health, significantly reducing the risk of issues that could lead to failure.
That said, your point about redundancy is valid having two batteries does give you peace of mind: if one were to have a problem, the system would still run on the remaining battery instead of going completely dark. Many members go the 2×15.3 kWh route for exactly this reason, especially since the incremental cost is reasonable and you gain a lot more daily autonomy as well.
Active vs Passive BMS: Most Deye/Sunsynk-paired batteries use passive BMS bleed excess energy as heat slower and less efficient. Kynee’s active BMS transfers energy between cells for faster, cooler, more efficient balancing, better health, and longer lifespan.
Mixing batteries: Not recommended different sizes cause BMS issues, uneven cell/bank balancing, and potential problems.
Stick to identical units.Warranty/Support Edge: Kynee offers 48-hour swap-out turnaround a massive advantage over the long repair waits common with many other brands including Sunsynk/Deye setups
.Your Technical Questions Essential vs Non-Essential Loads
Non-essentials can still use excess solar during the day via CT control ideal for your geyser. They drop during loadshedding, while essentials stay on inverter + battery.Next Steps & Installers Prioritise PV GreenCard accredited installers experienced with Solis in the northern suburbs.
The Powerforum Store stocks Solis, Kynee, and the latest Tier 1 bifacial panels at competitive prices and can recommend reliable, trusted installers we work with regularly.
You’re welcome to contact [email protected] and ask for Steve or Wimpie they’ll be happy to put together a full package quote single or dual battery options and suggest suitable installers for your area.
Post your roof photos, latest bill, or any quotes here and we can fine-tune further.
This Solis + Kynee setup delivers Tier 1 quality, advanced safety features, active BMS benefits, fast support, and strong independence all within your budget.
Looking forward to helping you get this sorted! Any questions, just ask.
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Powerforum Store reacted to Yellow Measure in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHubble batteries are great, and I am most grateful for the Powerforumstore's recommendation at the time. I have 3x AM2s in parallel since March 2022, still going strong at 103% SOH. Not bad for over 4 years, 871 to 986 cycles, cycled daily and not a days' worth of trouble. 😎
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Everyone Just received the Hubble AM16+ and the AM5+ will unbox them this weekend share pics of what's in the boxes. I can however say both batteries are really Heavy already a good sign the AM5+ is almost 60KG and the AM16+ cardboard box almost 160KG wooden crate packaging included... all came on a pallet.
I will need extra hands to move that beast into place the good news is that it has wheels.
Exciting stuff will get some feedback from the Hubble engineer on how to make 3 Cloudlinks talk to each other considering the batteries have their own built in units.
Also get the new batteries to talk to the old AM2 Units...
Then I will start playing around with the batteries and get some meaningful testing done may even be able to share live viewing access to the two cloudlinks with links here on the forum.
Will keep you posted this weekend is unboxing and installing.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Powerforum members,
Hubble Energy will be sending me one Hubble Energy AM16+ (16.1kWh) and one AM5+ (5.12kWh) for extended real-world testing and review.
These are part of their current LV Range which includes:
AM-2 – Popular 5.5kWh 51V NMC battery 1C rating, proven long-term performer.
AM-4 – Compact 2.56–2.75kWh 25.6V wall-mount battery with 1C rating.
AM-5+ – 5.12kWh 51.2V LFP with built-in Cloudlink, 1C rating and RGB display.
AM10+ – Larger 10kWh+ model in the + series with advanced features.
AM16+ – High-capacity 16.1kWh floor-standing LFP with wheels, built-in Cloudlink and high discharge capability.
S-100A – 12V 100Ah (1.2kWh) compact lithium battery.
X-5+ (New X-101) – Newer generation Rack Mounted 5.5kWh model with updated features.
X-101 – Established Rack Mounted 5.5kWh 51V model, widely used in hybrid systems.
Note:
Hubble Energy also has a very exciting HV Range, but this review will focus 100% on the LV Range especially for members who already own Hubble batteries or are considering them.
Hubble Energy will also soon release the new AM-2+, which keeps the same NMC technology as the existing AM-2 models but adds built-in Cloudlink and several extra features.
My Setup:
Main system: Solis S6 8kW Pro Hybrid (master) with a Solis S6 6kW Pro seeing the 8kW as “grid”
AC-coupled: Enphase micro-inverters + Solis S5 4.6kW grid-tied inverter on the Aux port of the 8kW
2kW Wind turbine on the Solis S6 6kW MPPT in constant voltage mode
Separate Solis 5kW Off-Grid inverter for additional testing
Existing battery bank: 7 × Hubble AM2 (mixed ages – oldest >5 years old)
AM2 cycle counts right now:
1411 | 1036 | 880 | 853 | 805 | 737 | 595 cycles Total bank health still at 99% – very impressive for the age mix.
What I’ll be Testing:
Daily cycling and performance of the AM16+ and AM5+ on the Solis S6 6kW and the 5kW Off-Grid inverter
Parallel operation between the new + series and my existing AM2 bank (old model compatibility is a big claim)
Mixing different aged AM2 batteries and different capacities with the new units
Compatibility with multiple inverter brands/configurations
Cross-brand testing – insider info from a senior Hubble engineer says the new Plus range can work with almost any other battery brand
Full use of the built-in Hubble Cloudlink (I have unit #388)
I’ll also be highlighting the exciting new ergonomic and safety features:
Wheels on the AM16+ for easy movement
Magnetic panels that neatly hide all internal cables
Front-accessible BMS and critical components for simpler maintenance
Active cooling, fire suppression, and more
The unlimited cycle warranty on these new models is particularly attractive and will be closely monitored during long-term testing.I’ll be doing a detailed initial short-term review followed by ongoing long-term data over the coming months.
Expect real numbers on efficiency, temperature performance, charge/discharge behaviour, Cloudlink functionality, noise, installation, display readability, and real-world interaction with wind + AC-coupled solar.
We will also speak nicely to Hubble Energy and ask if they can provide some products for a lucky draw / giveaway for Powerforum members.
If you have any testing requests (particular charge profiles, high-load scenarios, Cloudlink screenshots, parallel comms behaviour, etc.), please reply in this thread. I’ll try to cover as many as possible.
Product links:
AM5+
AM16+
This should be a very thorough and transparent review for the Hubble community.
Looking forward to sharing the results with everyone.
Cheers, @Powerforum Store
Hubble Energy AM5+ Brochure V1.2.pdf Hubble Energy AM16+ Brochure V2.3.pdf
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHello Everyone
First Impressions are that this is a quality product with very well thought out features to make it easy to install maintain and repair if need be.
So I managed to get the very heavy AM16+ unboxed and upright safely had to get extra hands to help Hubble energy recommends 2 people in reality 3 people are needed the battery is very heavy and you do not want to drop something expensive like this. Once it was on its wheels it became very easy to move around and the wheels are of high quality and has leveling retainers that you use to level the battery when its in the place you need it very nifty in my opinion.
Here is a photo of the AM16+ still in its wooden box you can see the wheels and adjusters clearly and also note the packaging is decent to keep the battery safe in transport.
Here is a picture of the AM16+ Unpacked with all its cables on top of the battery note that there are no hard manuals with the battery everything is available online there are 2 data cables one is BMS the red one and the other is a parallel cable white with 2 x 35MM black and red battery cables. There is also a small L bracket that will allow you to secure the battery to a wall so it cannot fall over or move and a Hubble Energy sticker as part of the accessories.
There are silicone cable access glands where the battery cables and comms cables need to go in and the top cover is held in place by magnets with a magnetic click release all of the crucial components are accessible from the top of the battery including the cloudlink with its antenna and the BMS.
If the BMS needs to be removed for repair or if the clouldink needs to be removed or replaced the main pack does not require to be opened up.
Here is a picture of the top with the cover plate removed where you can see all the ports for the BMS and cloudlink with the built in DC Isolator, reset, power button, binary jumpers, RJ11 terminator, CAN terminator and cloudlink buttons clearly visible and accessible the battery terminals are very robust and there is an earthing point for you to attach your earth cable too.
There is a (Allow Charge/Discharge Dry Contacts) Port a MON port and a expansion port will find out from Hubble Energy what these would be used for out of interest sake.
Also to note the decent Antenna for the Cloudlink wifi comms. There is a gap in the lid cover for the antenna to protrude.
Note the Red BMS cable they provide and the white battery parallel cable also provided. You can run you DC cables through side glands or through the back glands. I assume the provided 35mm Battery cable purpose is solely for parallel configuration. The battery terminals for the AM16+ are M10 not M8.
The Battery is currently connected to my Solis S6 6 KW Pro Version with full BMS communication via the cloudlink and it is currently being charged with wind power only.
Some nice things about the Cloulink is that I can see in close to real time what is happening to the battery so there I can see the Turbine via the S6 6KW MPPT is pumping in around 793W per hour not bad for a 5 to 6 meter per second wind.
The battery was at 39% SOC when I received it now at 52% SOC and charging smoothly.
Note this is a micro grid setup so the 6KW is not carrying any load at the moment it is just charging the battery.
The Data on the inverter does not give such a nice accurate curve because its broken up in 5 Minute segments and the Cloudlink samples every second almost real time.
Before I can get any serious testing done I need to charge both batteries to 100% SOC
My main bank ran down to 16% SOC thanks to a very cold and cloudy weekend so that also needs to get to 100% SOC
Just a reminder I am 100% Off Grid so no utility power to boost batteries quickly.
I have a generator and will use that during the week to boost the batteries if PV and Wind is not sufficient however I want to avoid burning petrol.
I also have a lot of cables to make up for the different tests I plan to run etc.
I will post some info on the AM5 Later however this is also at 39% SOC and needs to be charged to 100% will get to that later this week.
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Powerforum Store got a reaction from Yellow Measure in Exciting Long-Term Review: NEW Hubble Energy AM16+ & AM5+ in a Real Micro-Grid SetupHi everyone a quick update I had a nice long chat with one of the engineers at Hubble Energy Cloudlink division.
He is going to send me all the required diagrams to parallel the Cloudlink devices between the different battery combinations for my AM-16+/AM-5+parallel tests and also for the AM16+/ AM-2 and AM-5+/AM2 Parallel configurations.
On top of that I will be fully integrating the Solis S6 models with the cloudlink via RS485 daisy chain cable to draw data from the inverters in real time or almost real time every second this will data will reflect on the Cloudlink Portal.
This will give me more in depth real time data to share with you and info on how each battery balances charges and discharges including all the inverter data.
The nice thing about guys that own Hubble's is that if you have the Cloudlink in place you have more realtime remote info and Hubble Energy can do in-depth remote diagnostic on each of your battery packs you simply need to move the cloudlink to the battery you want then to diagnose and batteries in parallel can also be diagnosed to a certain extent as an example they can Identify if a pack has issues or is underperforming which helps a lot if you have a pack that is faulty and need to be repaired under warranty.
Especially the older models that have done some cycles already besides that you can see each packs cycles and all of the info has historical time-lines so you can see when there were heavy loads running off the batteries.
In my case its was quite nice to see with my micro grid setup how well it worked.
In this picture you can see the battery pack of my 8KW Grid Forming inverter not using any power from the batteries basically keeping the pack at 16% while my Grid connected 6KW that sees the 8KW as grid is supporting the loads from the AM-16+ until the sun came up to charge the batteries on the 8KW unit.
And here you can see how the AM-16+ on the 6KW inverter was discharging while the wind turbine was injecting energy into the battery and loads the last bit of the graph the wind turbine was just charging the battery without carrying any loads and later the AM-16+ started servicing loads I set the Battery Reserve to 50% so I hope by tomorrow morning the AM-16+ would have charged more with the wind power.
Some other nice info you can see is state of health battery, serial number, battery firmware versions, battery temperatures with a historical graph etc.
Battery Location the cloudlink has a built in GPS it also supports energy meters for single and 3 phase and some other features that will talk about at a later stage.
All useful info to give you a better picture of how your system is performing.
Here you can see how much charge and discharge your battery actually got in watt.
The first one is PV and the Second one Wind.