Gabriël Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 hi, anyone got the above problem? if so how did you solve it? God bless gabriel Quote
Chris Hobson Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 Charge them rent! Clint, Gabriël and GVC 3 Quote
___ Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, gabriel said: hi, anyone got the above problem? if so how did you solve it? Lead poisoning. Via .22 rifle. Well, that is what I would LIKE to do, and if it wasn't a city residential area that's what I would do... but alas, I have the same problem. They don't nest below my panels, but they nest in other places on my back porch and sit on everything and makes a big mess in general. The old folks would poison some mielies and put it out for them... but we can no longer do that. Might kill someone's pet cat. Or some other innocent animals. I know that they don't like water (empirically determined). Some water jets and frequent high pressure blasts will do the job. Shouldn't even take too much water. Just a lot of schlep to design and install. I bought a small irrigation kit with that in mind, but so far I haven't done it. Come to think of it, now that I have the pressure pump running with my water treatment plant... this will be a lot simpler. Mmmmh... Quote
Gabriël Posted December 12, 2017 Author Posted December 12, 2017 aha, ze old water trick - as peter sellars might have said; keep us updated please! Quote
pilotfish Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, plonkster said: Some water jets and frequent high pressure blasts will do the job De Lille will hunt you down! Gabriël 1 Quote
Gabriël Posted December 12, 2017 Author Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, pilotfish said: De Lille will hunt you down! with her unwashed car... Chris Hobson 1 Quote
Gabriël Posted December 12, 2017 Author Posted December 12, 2017 ok, after some 'surfing' on the net and field recon i got down to two cost-effective maybe's : tighten some gut over the places i would like to keep them from, i.e. primarily from the ridge. from the main line of line i will fasten shorter pieces at regular intervals which will move with the wind stick the 1st 20mm or so of strips [say 20mmx300mm] of heavy duty tin foil on the ridge and at intervals around the arrays. the wind will also move them around [lets call it christmas decorations :-)] i notice the birds in general land on the ridge and walk down from there, i.e. if i sabotage their main landing strip i might be unto something here the spikes you can buy seem to be a bit 'poepperig' - especially in this sun i will keep you posted! Quote
___ Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, pilotfish said: De Lille will hunt you down! I won't be using potable water for it. I generate around 200 liters of fairly clean water now from a well point. It's a whole process, and none of this makes any economical sense, some of it is really just having fun too. First I treat it with Ozone. I have a small generator and I push the gas into a venturi to mix it. That takes care of oxidising a lot of the bad stuff (mostly dissolved carbon and some iron), but it remains in suspension. So then I put a normal swimming-pool flocculant on it, and overnight that makes little cloudy clumps that either sink to the bottom or are more easily filtered. Then I put it through a 1-micron filter and some activated carbon. And finally I put about half-a-teaspoon of powdered chlorine on the end result in the final tank. A bit silly to add the chlorine after the carbon filter... but hey, works well enough. The water that comes out is clear and no longer stains my toilets. I'll be using that water to spray the birds. When we get to it. pilotfish 1 Quote
Chris Hobson Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 We pop-riveted a thin sheet of galvanised sheet metal to a install because if you stood on the threshold of the kitchen steps one looked straight underneath the panels and the associated unistruts. The galvanised sheet metal now hides this from view. A similar addition would prevent birds getting underneath the panels. It is not a cheap as your gut and foil idea. Quote
Gabriël Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Chris Hobson said: We pop-riveted a thin sheet of galvanised sheet metal to a install does that not inhibit the cooling airflow underneath the pvs? Quote
Chris Hobson Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, gabriel said: does that not inhibit the cooling airflow underneath the pvs? It is only on one side. In you case perhaps flyscreen or chicken mesh? Quote
Gabriël Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 i'll 1st have a look at the results with the gut and foil Chris Hobson 1 Quote
___ Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 21 hours ago, plonkster said: Lead poisoning Quote
Andries Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 I have the same problem with the birds,and making nests under the pannels,Cannot believe how they can live under the panel with that heat,last year it was so hot,the chicks got fried! Quote
Gabriël Posted December 14, 2017 Author Posted December 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Andries said: the chicks got fried! janee andries - dis mos nou dieremishandeling! en ons moet dit voorkom gister het ek die vierde keer 'n duiwenes plus eier onder my panele uitgetrek - as my versekering dit hoor gaan hulle die premie van my lewensdekking verhoog. what i did then was to take strands of fishing line, about 15 at a time, about 1000mm long [uncurled] and stuck them with glue to the ridge of my roof, where the pigeons usually land. fastening a couple of those about 1m apart i climbed down. now i live on the west coast and we have plenty of wind. those hardly visible gut strands are being blown all over the place and up till now [ok, its early days], i have not seen a pigeon sitting on that part of the roof as i believe they cant really figure out whats going on there and given their brain size i hope it will stay that way. even if they land, the pieces of gut will strike and irritate them. now obviously if the wind lets down things might change, but i'll keep you guys posted God bless! g Quote
Andries Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, gabriel said: janee andries - dis mos nou dieremishandeling! en ons moet dit voorkom gister het ek die vierde keer 'n duiwenes plus eier onder my panele uitgetrek - as my versekering dit hoor gaan hulle die premie van my lewensdekking verhoog. what i did then was to take strands of fishing line, about 15 at a time, about 1000mm long [uncurled] and stuck them with glue to the ridge of my roof, where the pigeons usually land. fastening a couple of those about 1m apart i climbed down. now i live on the west coast and we have plenty of wind. those hardly visible gut strands are being blown all over the place and up till now [ok, its early days], i have not seen a pigeon sitting on that part of the roof as i believe they cant really figure out whats going on there and given their brain size i hope it will stay that way. even if they land, the pieces of gut will strike and irritate them. now obviously if the wind lets down things might change, but i'll keep you guys posted God bless! g Hoe lekker het ek nou gelag! You gave me an awesome idea,never thought about fish line. Quote
Guest Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 On 12/12/2017 at 4:48 PM, gabriel said: with her unwashed car... Unless she is fired. Quote
Gabriël Posted January 15, 2018 Author Posted January 15, 2018 update on getting rid of birds under pv: even with the strands of fishing line, the pigeons - i have now decided hormonal over-stimulation to be the cause - returned again for breeding purposes. in true fashion i had the nest removed and then placed a small, real life looking green rubber snake under the panel... that was about three weeks ago, no pigeons on my roof yet. God bless g ___ and Chris Hobson 2 Quote
flamegrilled Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 https://birdbarrier.com/solar-panel-protection.html. One of many manufacturers for panel coverage. A local supplier of a bird deterrent: http://www.eagleeye.co.za/ Quote
Gabriël Posted January 16, 2018 Author Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, flamegrilled said: One of many manufacturers for panel coverage. thanx @flamegrilled, yes, i have looked at especially the local options, but have found that some of the 'solutions' are just hi priced gadgets - so, as many on this forum i try with a bit of commonsense to save some bucks - although not always with success... Quote
flamegrilled Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 In the mission to cool off the solar panels with an irrigation system one could attach a "noisy nossle" in line to ward off future "homemakers killing two birds so to say. Quote
Gabriël Posted January 16, 2018 Author Posted January 16, 2018 i believe if such an irrigation system could also spray underneath the panels it will work - otherwise it might just make things more attractive to our feathered friends. somehow i think birds are put off more by visual means than sounds, i could be wrong, i mean my hearing isn't 20/20 anymore Quote
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