2 minutes ago, Eurard said:

Okay done red wire on A2

And the black on A1? 

I just want to find smaller black too big

Okay found some 6mm done black on A1

This is just for reference

4 minutes ago, Eurard said:

Okay found some 6mm done black on A1

Ok, with relay still out, switch the grid supply on and test for 220vac across A1 and A2. 

Edited June 17, 20233 yr by BritishRacingGreen

Okay gimme 5

7 minutes ago, BritishRacingGreen said:

Ok, with relay still out, switch the grid supply on and test for 220vac across A1 and A2. 

Yup 230 across A1/2 relay out

2 minutes ago, Eurard said:

Yup 230 across A1/2 relay out

Ok with no cables yet on the klippon terminals :

1 switch grid off

2. Insert relay. Relay is supposed to have a LED.  Relay should be down (off) 

3. Switch grid on. Relay should be up (on). 

4. Now check for continuity with meter between klippon terminal N and E. There should be none. 

5.switch grid off

6.Now check for continuity with meter between klippon terminal N and E. There should be close to 0 ohm (short) . 

 

3 minutes ago, BritishRacingGreen said:

Ok with no cables yet on the klippon terminals :

1 switch grid off

2. Insert relay. Relay is supposed to have a LED.  Relay should be down (off) 

3. Switch grid on. Relay should be up (on). 

4. Now check for continuity with meter between klippon terminal N and E. There should be none. 

5.switch grid off

6.Now check for continuity with meter between klippon terminal N and E. There should be close to 0 ohm (short) . 

 

100% as per above on everything

Okay I assume one last step.

Neutral from inverter to klipons and from klipons to load neutral bar

2 minutes ago, Eurard said:

Okay I assume one last step.

Neutral from inverter to klipons and from klipons to load neutral bar

Yes, but one last test for safety and the good order:

1. Switch grid off and measure between A1 and A2 that there is nothing. 

2. Test for continuity between A1 and klippon L, N and E respectively. You should have open circuit. 

3 repeat test 2 but from A2 terminal. 

If all goes well, conclude by wiring in your inverter output and load netral and earth. Remove relay while doing so. 

4. Switch inverter on and test if your loads respond.

5.insert relay. 

6 switch on grid

7. Di your bonding test when both in grid and islanding mode. 

8 have beer

1 minute ago, BritishRacingGreen said:

Yes, but one last test for safety and the good order:

1. Switch grid off and measure between A1 and A2 that there is nothing. 

2. Test for continuity between A1 and klippon L, N and E respectively. You should have open circuit. 

3 repeat test 2 but from A2 terminal. 

If all goes well, conclude by wiring in your inverter output and load netral and earth. Remove relay while doing so. 

4. Switch inverter on and test if your loads respond.

5.insert relay. 

6 switch on grid

7. Di your bonding test when both in grid and islanding mode. 

8 have beer

Dude you are a BLOODY legend! I will drink that beer with a smile!

I will finalize, need to go get some lesser sized wires, for final step. I have enough for Inverter to kilppon but need from klippon to Load neutral bar.

 

I cannot thank you enough and with your blessings I will make a slide that details these steps for other users and future use.

My setup is quite unique as well as my mains ac goes to a breaker, then through a smart switch, then through a over under breaker and then to inverter.

The AC from mains to A1 and A2 was taken from output of the over under, so that it incorporates all protective devices. I have so much protection it isnt even funny lol.

31 minutes ago, Eurard said:

Dude you are a BLOODY legend! I will drink that beer with a smile!

I will finalize, need to go get some lesser sized wires, for final step. I have enough for Inverter to kilppon but need from klippon to Load neutral bar.

 

I cannot thank you enough and with your blessings I will make a slide that details these steps for other users and future use.

Thanks, if you create a nice slide thats wonderfull. We are here to support and share, thats the spirit. 

Sorry to hijack this thread, but would one require the neutral earth bonding box for a Growatt or Luxpower inverter?

2 hours ago, BritishRacingGreen said:

Thanks, if you create a nice slide thats wonderfull. We are here to support and share, thats the spirit. 

Tested all now and .... Drum roll .... Eskom off, L-N 230V, L-G 230V, E-N 0V

3 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Sorry to hijack this thread, but would one require the neutral earth bonding box for a Growatt or Luxpower inverter?

With the help of someone who has a Growatt it seems both do have internal bonding. 

@zsde

3 hours ago, BritishRacingGreen said:

Thanks, if you create a nice slide thats wonderfull. We are here to support and share, thats the spirit. 

Another very helpful discussion. Well done

@BritishRacingGreen

4 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Sorry to hijack this thread, but would one require the neutral earth bonding box for a Growatt or Luxpower inverter?

I don't know the Growatts or LuxPower , but if it is reasonably late models , then I will be surprised  if they haven't got internal bonding. The last two generations of Axperts have built-in bonding arrangements .

There is a quick-and-dirty way of gauging whether there is built in bonding .Remove all wires from the input and output terminals , switch the inverter off , and measure for continuity between input neutral and output neutral .  If there is none then measure for continuity between output neatral and inverter earth terminal . If there is continuity then there exist internal bonding. 

But this must be functionally verified in the final analysis , by using a plug tester on the inverter load output . The test button button on RCD is not good enough , because it does not prove earth leakage , only residual current. The plug tester is a must.

Just as a follow up, all ghosting gone! Thanks again @BritishRacingGreen

29 minutes ago, Eurard said:

Just as a follow up, all ghosting gone! Thanks again @BritishRacingGreen

Good news, it must also be said that if the person at the other end is competent like you then it makes life an order of magnitude easier. 

On 2023/06/17 at 7:44 PM, BritishRacingGreen said:

I don't know the Growatts or LuxPower , but if it is reasonably late models , then I will be surprised  if they haven't got internal bonding. The last two generations of Axperts have built-in bonding arrangements .

There is a quick-and-dirty way of gauging whether there is built in bonding .Remove all wires from the input and output terminals , switch the inverter off , and measure for continuity between input neutral and output neutral .  If there is none then measure for continuity between output neatral and inverter earth terminal . If there is continuity then there exist internal bonding. 

But this must be functionally verified in the final analysis , by using a plug tester on the inverter load output . The test button button on RCD is not good enough , because it does not prove earth leakage , only residual current. The plug tester is a must.

Thanks, will give this a try when I get my install done.

Appreciate the info and assistance.

 

On 2023/06/17 at 5:51 PM, Scorp007 said:

With the help of someone who has a Growatt it seems both do have internal bonding. 

@zsde

That is good to know, makes life easier and simpler  

 

Edited June 19, 20233 yr by Eurard

@BritishRacingGreen - Can you check above post for any changes?

7 hours ago, Eurard said:

 

Hi @Eduard this is very well done , thanks for your support !