Inverters. What is the original and what is the copy?

[Cef]

Hi !

"Axpert", "Infini", "Mpp Solar".

All look similar. The identical or almost identical specifications.

What is the original engineering brand and / or the copies (fakes with another brand)?

 

 

[Guest]

Good question

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[Chris Hobson]

I am going to stick my neck out because I am not sure. I think based on their websites Voltronic is the manufacturer. MPP Solar, Giant Power, Mecer and Proline (there are others) have OEM agreements with Voltronic and the same inverter is branded in different colours but it is just the wrapping paper. They are the same machines under the skin. Infini has links to Imeon as they share at least the same communication protocol and those in the know  say that they are virtually the same machines. There are copies of the Axpert. The specs are usually slightly different. The MPPT Voc on the one I saw was a dead giveaway.

[___]

12 minutes ago, Clement said:

number of proline inverters with different technical specs

The MPPT board can be swapped, so they often ship the same inverter with different SCCs (solar charge controllers), either MPPT or PWM. There is even a cheap one without an MPPT too.

As Chris said, I believe the Mecer, RCT, Giant, Axpert, Proline and MPPSolar are all legal rebrands. The fake one is branded MUST. Imagine, a cheaper copy of an already cheap inverter...

[Coulomb]

It's also my belief that the Axperts are manufactured by Voltronic :

http://forums.aeva.asn.au/forum_posts.asp?TID=4332&PID=59962&title=pip4048ms-inverter#59962

Edit : it seems the above post was spurred on by a post by @fllniks, quite possibly from this Power Forum. Thanks! 

Edited March 21, 2017 by Coulomb

[Coulomb]

On 18/03/2017 at 1:17 AM, Chris Hobson said:

Infini has links to Imeon as they share at least the same communication protocol and those in the know  say that they are virtually the same machines.

Interesting. I wonder if the design and/or firmware are jointly done with Imeon. Or perhaps Imeon just have an arrangement whereby Voltronic manufacture the Infini series. 

[Mike]

Nope there was a patent infringement with Imeon and Voltronic Power. Voltronic got the rights to manufacture the Imeon and a few months after that the Infini was born...the 10kw Imeon went elsewhere for manufacture. Voltronic is an OEM and supply all as CHris states in various configs for distributors...

[Cef]

On 22/3/2017 at 0:51 AM, Mike said:

...Voltronic got the rights to manufacture the Imeon...

Thanks to all the participants. Between all is slowly clearing, however now the doubt, at least mine, and sorry if I did not understand something, the nationality of the original design: Taiwan (China) / Germany ??

[Chris Hobson]

Original design of Imeon was French of which Infini 3kW is a copy. The Axpert I think is a home grown Chinese inverter.

[SilverNodashi]

9 hours ago, Chris Hobson said:

Original design of Imeon was French of which Infini 3kW is a copy. The Axpert I think is a home grown Chinese inverter.

Taiwanese

[Chris Hobson]

7 hours ago, SilverNodashi said:

Taiwanese

ROC hmmm....

[ibiza]

 Voltronic Power Technology Corp. was established by Alex Hsieh. Mr. Hsieh’s professional team has over 20 years of experience in DMS (Design and Manufacturing Service) of power products. Headquartered in Taiwan"..."

rest of the text find here: http://www.voltronicpower.com/aboutus.php

[Engr naeem]

its so hilarious to experience different specs..under same skin