I came across this brand watching the Off-Grid Garage (very good channel about batteries) on YouTube. I googled the make and found this link

https://www.gobelpower.com/gobel-sa-13-battery-south-africa_ap25.html, has anybody dealt with or have these batteries. I am very interested in these as I was also looking at the Apexium build your own battery but these are looking very good as well. I did send an online enquiry about warranty and if any local support.

I was hoping someone has dealt with them and could give feedback. Looks like a very nice battery.

Edited November 9, 20232 yr by Greglsh

This is really a great price. A DIY battery doesn't even to be a cheaper alternative compared to this. 

I have also sent a message, let's see. Great find.

Very good company from what I have see. But if you factor in R15-20k for shipping you still looking at R60k when a DIY 14kwh can be done for less than R40k

3 hours ago, Chris_S said:

Very good company from what I have see. But if you factor in R15-20k for shipping you still looking at R60k when a DIY 14kwh can be done for less than R40k

The idea was that they already had local stock, but it seems not yet. 

I have asked them about local stock and warranty, lets see what they say, I think this might be where the Apexium might come in cheaper.

6 minutes ago, Greglsh said:

I have asked them about local stock and warranty, lets see what they say, I think this might be where the Apexium might come in cheaper.

For now, I cannot seem to get the apexium cells for under 42K with bms. I have since seen a couple alternatives, like this gobel,

Their reply to me was that they do not have local stock, and shipping is charged from the first 500kg. So a group buy of a minimum of 5 units would probably make it reasonable 

Very nice, I saw that Svolt will be releasing a 280AH battery on castors like this Gobel Power battery.

I believe they are expecting stock early 2024, I am very keen to see what price they offer.

 

Gobel Power also use the Pace BMS, so I suspect I would be able to add it to my battery bank in parallel without issues.

I think I will wait and see what price Svolt have on their 280ah battery compared to what it would cost to get this Gobel Power battery.

 

The form factor is perfect for my situation, can be place nicely against the wall at the back of the garage and not interfere with anything or get in the way.

Only issue is that it does not look as if the castors can be locked in place...

Received this so pricing is not so cheap, working on exchange rate of +_ R19 to dollar the Standard battery works out to R51K plus shipping.

 

 

Edited November 10, 20232 yr by Greglsh

After shipping, vat and duties that's over R70k

1 hour ago, Chris_S said:

After shipping, vat and duties that's over R70k

Yes I think they are too expensive unfortunately, when you say you can do a battery for around R40 is that the Apexium DIY or do you make your own battery box?

Yikes, very pricey all of a sudden.

 

Interesting that they use an active balancer from another manufacturer, I'd prefer for them to use a Neey instead of the Heltec active balancer though.

52 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

Yikes, very pricey all of a sudden.

 

Interesting that they use an active balancer from another manufacturer, I'd prefer for them to use a Neey instead of the Heltec active balancer though.

I think they come with Neeys now. Andy mentioned it in a video recently 

24 minutes ago, Chris_S said:

I think they come with Neeys now. Andy mentioned it in a video recently 

That is really awesome if that is the case!

Although the price with shipping is just too darn high. If they were to have a reseller in SA and ship multiple units that could bring the cost down nicely and make it worth while.

27 minutes ago, Chris_S said:

I think they come with Neeys now. Andy mentioned it in a video recently 

Yes he did a great video about this just last week
He mentioned all the new ones now come with the smart active balancer builtin and according to Andy, the active smart balancer and the way they grade the batteries makes this one of the best batteries currently in the market.

4 hours ago, Chris_S said:

After shipping, vat and duties that's over R70k

Even at R70k that works out to R25k per 100AH and considering the quality and provenance of the battery and cells it beats almost all the other pre-built batteries currently available in SA.

3 minutes ago, WannabeSolarSparky said:

Yes he did a great video about this just last week
He mentioned all the new ones now come with the smart active balancer builtin and according to Andy, the active smart balancer and the way they grade the batteries makes this one of the best batteries currently in the market.

I can believe that, there is already a limited number of batteries with a good active balancer (other than DIY) and if the cells are graded properly and matched well that makes it even better. Having a cell with a capacity of say 265ah and another with say 285ah in the same battery would be limiting.

 

We are certainly heading in the right direction here and now we will need to wait for others to follow suite.

 

3 minutes ago, WannabeSolarSparky said:

Even at R70k that works out to R25k per 100AH and considering the quality and provenance of the battery and cells it beats almost all the other pre-built batteries currently available in SA.

Not a bad price, although if one can get it for cheaper then why not do so?

I feel that times are changing and 100ah batteries costing R30k or more is coming to an end. Under R25k for a 100ah battery is where it is at now in terms of good pricing.

 

Quality wise, we will need to wait and see how they fare after a couple of years.

1 minute ago, PsyCLown said:

Quality wise, we will need to wait and see how they fare after a couple of years.

In a few years ( LONG before your current battery dies or warranty expires ) the new solid state high capacity batteries will start flowing onto the market, then we start all the testing, trying, moaning, crying all over again 🤪
100AH batteries will fade away into distant memory.

1 minute ago, WannabeSolarSparky said:

In a few years ( LONG before your current battery dies or warranty expires ) the new solid state high capacity batteries will start flowing onto the market, then we start all the testing, trying, moaning, crying all over again 🤪
100AH batteries will fade away into distant memory.

Hahaha, this is true but the testing and trying will be worth it.

I guess it is just a cycle which is repeated as technological advances are made.

So my quote as this morning, for 5 units

Shipping: 1399, and then you need to pickup at buffalo logistics

Price per bat, $2188

 

BUT, MOQ is 10

Take a close look at the cells used for the 2 cheapest ones

At those prices, and considering the cell quality, it's much cheaper to just buy a prebuilt bat from Apexium, just my 2c

Edited November 13, 20232 yr by Pho3niX90

So just a small update, on the last post I replied to gobel the pricing doesn't fit the SA market well, they have actually gone and lowered it for us, which I think speaks volumes, and I am actually impressed 

Here is the updated pricing. 

On 2023/11/14 at 12:58 PM, Pho3niX90 said:

So just a small update, on the last post I replied to gobel the pricing doesn't fit the SA market well, they have actually gone and lowered it for us, which I think speaks volumes, and I am actually impressed 

Here is the updated pricing. 

Never heard of that cell. Probably the reason for the price reduction 

27 minutes ago, Chris_S said:

Never heard of that cell. Probably the reason for the price reduction 

Which cell you’ve never heard of?

Edited November 15, 20232 yr by PowerUser

14 minutes ago, PowerUser said:

Which cell you’ve never heard of?

Batterotech

Gobel where using eve and rept now giving a cheaper price with Batterotech cells. That are 280Ah cells that test at 270Ah