April 11, 201610 yr Seams like I have a challenge on my hands by setting this up to please all. Hehe, hmm what to do. What you guys think? Jay
April 11, 201610 yr Yes, python uses whitespace to delimit blocks. It takes getting used to... about a week. It's not that hard, good programmers program in blocks anyway. If you're indenting so deep that the code marches off the screen, you're doing it wrong anyway. (I code in a terminal 80 characters wide, specifically so that unnecessarily wide code bothers me). My wife just finished a Haskell course (she's quite functional that way), and many colleagues code in Scala, and from this second hand exposure I'm beginning to learn that the python guys are leaning towards that kind of thinking too. It's not new, Lisp had some of these ideas several decades ago... but I like it :-) Very true. I must just get use to it😆 Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
April 11, 201610 yr 1 hour ago, Energy said: Seams like I have a challenge on my hands by setting this up to please all. Hehe, hmm what to do. What you guys think? Jay I would stick with software as a category and then have each piece of software have its own section (software will evolve to add hardware and features... I'm sure of that... Mike will need SolarMon to monitor his Inifini AND Wind Turbine for example Description or first post then refers the the hardware its supports and this is edited by the developers for example on a regular basis outlining progress and changes, etc. See the following example.... Is there a way to PIN Posts/Announcements at the top of a thread?
April 11, 201610 yr 4 minutes ago, Mark said: I would stick with software as a category and then have each piece of software have its own section (software will evolve to add hardware and features... I'm sure of that... Mike will need SolarMon to monitor his Inifini AND Wind Turbine for example Description or first post then refers the the hardware its supports and this is edited by the developers for example on a regular basis outlining progress and changes, etc. See the following example.... Is there a way to PIN Posts/Announcements at the top of a thread? Looks Good. Sure we can pin. If you guys can present me with a breif document with a hierarchy of subforms I can make it happen no problem. Remember the forum belongs to you guys. So let me know what I can cook up. Sincerely Jason
April 11, 201610 yr 6 minutes ago, Energy said: Looks Good. Sure we can pin. If you guys can present me with a breif document with a hierarchy of subforms I can make it happen no problem. Remember the forum belongs to you guys. So let me know what I can cook up. Sincerely Jason Initial List: SolarMon Victron AICC MPPSolarPatrol MPPTracker Watchpower TeamViewer Just ideas...
April 11, 201610 yr SolarMon - solWEB SolarMon is being replaced with solWEB. Edmund will be around shortly.
April 11, 201610 yr SolarMon - solWEB SolarMon is being replaced with solWEB. Edmund will be around shortly. Hi all. Confirmed as per TTT! Very excited about this! Exciting times ahead with many many benefits to existing and future users. Watch this (the) space.... Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
April 12, 201610 yr So AICC (if jdp wants to) under Axpert umbrella Infini version (initial post by SuperDIY) Kleva's version (led by Kleva under Axpert) Manie's version (led by Manie under Axpert) Solar Bob's version (led by Solar Bob under Axpert) solWeb (multi product) listed as it develops under TTT plonky Ed and others. Victron (under TTT and plonky) Watchpower (for those who are still in the medieval ages) and the Infini equivalent of Watchpower (SolarPower I think it is called). Listings can be added and subtracted as things develop and folk cooperate and new offerings are made. I think MPPSolar Patrol and others written by folk not on the forum should not be included as one is unlikely to get any feedback. Edited April 12, 201610 yr by Chris Hobson Addition
April 12, 201610 yr 18 minutes ago, Chris Hobson said: solWeb (multi product) listed as it develops under TTT plonky Ed and others. I like the summary Chris!!! Yes, I am sure there will be others, when we have released the new version, whom will like what we have done and wants to add their devices.
April 12, 201610 yr 25 minutes ago, Chris Hobson said: So AICC (if jdp wants to) under Axpert umbrella Infini version (initial post by SuperDIY) Kleva's version (led by Kleva under Axpert) Manie's version (led by Manie under Axpert) Solar Bob's version (led by Solar Bob under Axpert) solWeb (multi product) listed as it develops under TTT plonky Ed and others. Victron (under TTT and plonky) Watchpower (for those who are still in the medieval ages) and the Infini equivalent of Watchpower (SolarPower I think it is called). Listings can be added and subtracted as things develop and folk cooperate and new offerings are made. I think MPPSolar Patrol and others written by folk not on the forum should not be included as one is unlikely to get any feedback. I'm happy Chris - I just suggest we don't list Software under a Hardware label (the hardware it supports is a feature of the software itself... (eg: Pi)) Have a separate software Category with various software under this and then when people add features (for example AICC and automation) things don't get messy. solWeb is a good example of this...
April 12, 201610 yr 8 minutes ago, Mark said: I'm happy Chris - I just suggest we don't list Software under a Hardware label (the hardware it supports is a feature of the software itself... (eg: Pi)) Have a separate software Category with various software under this and then when people add features (for example AICC and automation) things don't get messy. solWeb is a good example of this... Happy with Chris suggestion but I think you need a hardware label as how would you know what software is for what inverter without opening all of them first?
April 12, 201610 yr Not sure where to put this compliment to Victron, as we are still getting there. Have a spare MPPT75/15 controller. When I connected the cables the last time, I must have damaged the connector screw for it just kept on turning, cannot tighten the wire. Cannot open the unit, it is sealed. So I sent it back tot the supplier asking for repairs. They in turn could not repair it so they contacted Victron. Victron says it is still under warranty, like 5 year warranty, and they will replace the unit. But, as I said to the supplier, maybe Victron must change the design. So what a smart company to replace a unit for a stripped thread.
April 12, 201610 yr 1 minute ago, viper_za said: Happy with Chris suggestion but I think you need a hardware label as how would you know what software is for what inverter without opening all of them first? Maybe put a label in the title ie: SolWeb (Axpert, BMV, Pi, etc)
April 12, 201610 yr 10 minutes ago, viper_za said: Happy with Chris suggestion but I think you need a hardware label as how would you know what software is for what inverter without opening all of them first? I think Mark was referring to the hardware it operates on (Pi? - not sure. Mark is a lecturer and I have always had great difficulty following lecturers' train of thought - hence my problematic academic career ) . I agree with you listing per inverter and then sub-listings per software version AICC, SolarMon etc.
April 12, 201610 yr 6 minutes ago, Mark said: Maybe put a label in the title ie: SolWeb (Axpert, BMV, Pi, etc) That is a good idea as the 3rd party software is going to tend to be multi-platform even if it is only a BMV added to the mix.
April 12, 201610 yr Now now... For Chris...a suggested structure (I'm going to type slowly for you...): Software (not under inverters) solWeb (Axpert, Infini, Victron BMV, Pi) AICC (Axpert, Victron BMV, Automation Hardware) etc
April 12, 201610 yr To be honest. It is pointless to have everybody build their own software that does the same thing for the same type of inverter. It is a total waste of time if everybody builds another version of the same thing. I have so much other work to do with my other projects that makes money that I only work on AICC when I have spare time. So I guess I need to make a decision. Am I going to keep on with AICC or just stop it here and let the forum continue because as I stated it is a waste of time if everybody does the same thing. I build AICC as there was nothing that could do what it does. I chose the platform for a reason, its very fast and does not take a lot of resources and anybody can install it, With USB it is even easier. Maybe somebody needs to do a independent test on performance and ease of use between all the different systems. And then we continue with that project as a team. I build AICC as a play project, only reason I charged for it was to recover the money I paid for the controls I bought. Anyway, I guess I have other work to do. Enjoy.
April 12, 201610 yr 15 hours ago, plonkster said: My own "career" starts in grade 9 with "PC Logo" (who still remembers that?), then several versions of Turbo Pascal Brings back memories - PC Logo in computer science in "standerd ag" (grade 10) and Turbo Pascal thereafter.
April 12, 201610 yr Just now, superdiy said: Brings back memories - PC Logo in computer science in "standerd ag" (grade 10) and Turbo Pascal thereafter. I used up all 64kb of code space on PC Logo, then started working on a method to swap code out to floppy, moved to Pascal. In grade 8, school adopted a new curriculum, but as it goes with these things it is always a little stale, so it was TP 3.3 (though 4.0 had been out some time) with a Turtle Graphics add-on. I had that teacher so frustrated, especially when 5.0 came out, I would quickly rush the assignments, then put in the other disk. Then came TP 7.0... with TurboVision "graphics", and MOUSE support. I was in heaven. The school acquired one 80486 computer... I practically hogged that thing. But then I went to university and the world that I knew exploded. Redhat 4.1 (which actually sucked, but it beat the pants of Windows 95), skipped 4.2 (which was the better one), actually bought an official 5.0 CD (which sucked)... then 5.1, 5.2... 6.x, and then RH made a version 7.0 that came with a development compiler (which changed the whole ABI). World explodes again, this time Debian is the cause. The only thing I am not proud of is the brief stint in the middle when I coded PHP. The rest was all fun :-) Don't tell my mom about the PHP thing. I told her I play the piano at the local brothel, and she's okay with that now.
April 12, 201610 yr My programming career (not that it is in anyway illustrious ) started with Apple basic and Apple 2.
April 12, 201610 yr 47 minutes ago, Mark said: Now now... For Chris...a suggested structure (I'm going to type slowly for you...): Software (not under inverters) solWeb (Axpert, Infini, Victron BMV, Pi) AICC (Axpert, Victron BMV, Automation Hardware) etc Jip but I thought going one further Software Axpert AICC SolarMon Manie's Kleva Infini SuperDIY Mike Victron Plonky TTT ...and so on. 46 minutes ago, jdp said: To be honest. It is pointless to have everybody build their own software that does the same thing for the same type of inverter. ... I agree with you but it is going to happen because each one will have a subtle difference and each to their own. If Adolf Hitler had won the war we would all be driving Volkswagens.
April 12, 201610 yr 37 minutes ago, jdp said: To be honest. It is pointless to have everybody build their own software that does the same thing for the same type of inverter. It is a total waste of time if everybody builds another version of the same thing. I have so much other work to do with my other projects that makes money that I only work on AICC when I have spare time. So I guess I need to make a decision. Am I going to keep on with AICC or just stop it here and let the forum continue because as I stated it is a waste of time if everybody does the same thing. I build AICC as there was nothing that could do what it does. I chose the platform for a reason, its very fast and does not take a lot of resources and anybody can install it, With USB it is even easier. Maybe somebody needs to do a independent test on performance and ease of use between all the different systems. And the we continue with that project as a team. I build AICC as a ply project, only reason I charged for it was to recover the money I paid for the controls I bought. Anyway, I guess I have other work to do. Enjoy. I had not choice but to do my own thing JDP.
April 12, 201610 yr 1 minute ago, The Terrible Triplett said: I had not choice but to do my own thing JDP. Yeah, same here. All you windows junkies refused to cooperate :-P
April 12, 201610 yr I ALWAYS complicate things, ask Edmund and my developers. solWEB does not fall under Victron. It is Victron inverters, Victron MPPT controllers, Morningstar PWM controller, BMV's from 600-702, Axperts and probably soon other devices. And if you have 2 separate systems running like I have, you record all the data from all the devices and then display it separately. Would keep solWEB separate from specific hardware.
April 12, 201610 yr 2 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said: I ALWAYS complicate things, ask Edmund and my developers. Yeah, I had to teach you about YAGNI just yesterday :-) (everyone else, YFGI. That's short for "just bloody google it".)
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