charlez Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Hi I purchased 2 Narada NPFC 100ah batteries. I have a healthy dose of buyers remorse as the comm's seem much poorer than Pylontech and the Narada is not keen to divulge details on their comm's it seems. While ICC has an option to read basic Narada data, whenever I switch this feature on, the app hangs after a few minutes, so this meant inferring SOC from voltage which is sub-optimal. I tried to find details on the protocol from google searches, Narada and my supplier to no avail. What I did find is that a unit "Orion Controller" supposedly able to communicate with the batteries. This device does appear to be quite pricey though. Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Would be also be great if the Axpert King port BMS could talk to the batteries but looks like this was designed specifically for Pylontech. In that case one would need some sort of middle ware. One could write a simple Python script to do this if one had details on the applicable protocols. Thanks Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaanh Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Morning Charlez I can agree with a lot you are saying here ito Comms available on Pylon vs Narada etc. I think you might have a different issue there, as I have a set of Narada's running on ICC no issues. Agreed the volume of information is not on par with the likes Pylon, but one is mostly interested in SOC, Battery Watts, Voltage and then Amps, for me in that order. I have had over 1000 hours runtime on ICC on the Naradas, and only reset the timer due to a new upgrade I did. Currently over 260 hours again, no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlez Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hi Riaanh Thanks for the feedback. On the Narada communication issue. The retailer said he would get the Narada SA agents to have a look at my batteries. Still waiting. Would still be great if they were more open. Thanks Charles Riaanh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marz Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Afternoon guys. What software do you use to communicate with the battery? I have a Narada 48NPFC100 and I would love to be able to monitor the SOC and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlez Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 ICC can do the basics, but there is a problem monitoring mine right now as the software hangs after a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marz Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Ok awesome. I just paid for ICC just waiting for the key. Hopefully I dont have the same issue Do you know who the Narada SA agents are? The guys that did my installation still haven't given me an invoice after 3 months and now they aren't taking my calls anymore so I'm not sure how I'm going to handle a fault with the battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlez Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 Hi Marz You should be fine with ICC. It's great software and works except for my problem which I believe is a Narada issue. The agents for Narada are DartCom. Thanks Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamegrilled Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 2019/08/11 at 8:51 PM, charlez said: the app hangs after a few minutes, After a week on the new version of ICC mine starting hanging. I redid the image.Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlez Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hi @flamegrilled Thanks so much for the feedback. Nice to know was not dreaming it up. May I ask how many batteries you have? Thanks Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaanh Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 2019/08/19 at 6:59 AM, flamegrilled said: After a week on the new version of ICC mine starting hanging. I redid the image.Just a thought. If I may ask what version are you running, I have 2 now, one single battery just over 100 hours, and one with 9 Naradas, going on 300 hours runtime no issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamegrilled Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 2019/08/21 at 3:37 PM, Riaanh said: what version are you running ICC 2.8.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaanh Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 2.9.0 and 2.9.2 run smooth, had a once off hang with 2.8.5 or 2.8.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommieWol Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Hi all. Where did you guys source the comms cable converters? The comms cables that came with my 2 nfpc100’s are both RJ45’s on both ends. I found the pin configs on the manual, but not having luck yet on the converters to usb. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koos de la Rey Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Hi All I have 3 Narada NPFC 100 batteries and an Axpert 5KVA Inverter. My supplier advised me to connect them each directly to a busbar. Which I did. I don't know what the right float charge setting (setting 27) must be. The manual says float voltage 54V full Charge is 54.5V but my supplier gave me a document saying float charge voltage must be 51.2V? I don't have utility back up or a generator (have been living of the grid with AGM batteries for 7 years). Other settings 1) SBU 2) Charge Current 60A 5) USE 13) 51V 16) SnU 26) 54.5V Great Forum got a lot of my questions answered here before. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msheps Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) On 2019/08/11 at 8:51 PM, charlez said: Hi Charles, Did you find a solution to this? I have some Narada NPFC100 as well and need to do some troubleshooting as they don't seem to be balancing with each other? Edited May 29, 2020 by msheps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msheps Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 2019/12/05 at 5:09 PM, TommieWol said: Hi all. Where did you guys source the comms cable converters? The comms cables that came with my 2 nfpc100’s are both RJ45’s on both ends. I found the pin configs on the manual, but not having luck yet on the converters to usb. Any advice? HI Tommie. I bought mine from a company called "Diversified Solutions". Contact was Riaan Heath . email them at info at diversifiedsolutions dot coza they referred to it as the "narada Comms cable" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYC Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) On 2019/08/12 at 7:27 AM, Riaanh said: as I have a set of Narada's running on ICC no issues From where did you source cable ? and at what cost? (Narada rs485 to usb ie) Edited August 31, 2020 by Quwatush Shams (Suly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msheps Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, Quwatush Shams (Suly) said: From where did you source cable ? and at what cost? (Narada rs485 to usb ie) I bought mine from a company called "Diversified Solutions". Contact was Riaan Heath . email them at info at diversifiedsolutions dot coza they referred to it as the "narada Comms cable" It cost me R750 a year ago SYC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYC Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, msheps said: I bought mine from a company called "Diversified Solutions". Contact was Riaan Heath . email them at info at diversifiedsolutions dot coza they referred to it as the "narada Comms cable" It cost me R750 a year ago Can you please post a pic. I have sent him a mail awaiting response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msheps Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Quwatush Shams (Suly) said: Can you please post a pic. I have sent him a mail awaiting response This is the best pic I could find as currently its all wired into an electrical box. It is basically an RJ45 One side then going through the Diversified solutions(beige with writing on it) box to a USB other side. SYC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay-Dee Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 2020/08/31 at 4:21 PM, msheps said: This is the best pic I could find as currently its all wired into an electrical box. It is basically an RJ45 One side then going through the Diversified solutions(beige with writing on it) box to a USB other side. @msheps... an off topic question... I am about to install a 2nd Narada battery... I see in the manual that you should have a CAN bus resistor on the 2nd battery's open RS485 port but then I have also read that on short distances this is not needed. Do you have on installed? If so, where did you get it? Thanks in advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.M Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Hi guyz i have 2 by 100ah 48v lithium narada battries. They just stopped showing the charging and discharging current and went into alarm. Any ideas on how i can fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 2020/09/25 at 9:45 PM, Jay-Dee said: @msheps... an off topic question... I am about to install a 2nd Narada battery... I see in the manual that you should have a CAN bus resistor on the 2nd battery's open RS485 port but then I have also read that on short distances this is not needed. Do you have on installed? If so, where did you get it? Thanks in advanced @Jay-Dee did you get any feedback on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay-Dee Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DaveP said: @Jay-Dee did you get any feedback on this? Nope but I have installed the 2nd battery and have no issues without it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msheps Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 2020/09/25 at 9:45 PM, Jay-Dee said: @msheps... an off topic question... I am about to install a 2nd Narada battery... I see in the manual that you should have a CAN bus resistor on the 2nd battery's open RS485 port but then I have also read that on short distances this is not needed. Do you have on installed? If so, where did you get it? Thanks in advanced Hi. No I do not have it installed. The last battery is simply left open. It seems to work fine like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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