Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I am told the balancer is about R1,287.19 ex VAT. EDIT: If there is still stock, they said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper_za Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said: I am pretty sure if Victron says one is fine, it is fine. It is not a cheap product - so they would be very careful not to mislead you. Having said that, IF you do find a problem, email them direct, and they will assist. What if your two banks are not balanced at different points then the one will get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Thanks Jaco Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, viper_za said: What if your two banks are not balanced at different points then the one will get? No idea ... when I do need a balancer, I am going to investigate the Victron. Ja ja ja, there are cheaper devices but I would like help when I need it. Like my post on the controller's screw threads that got damaged, just go a new unit under warranty today. EDIT: Most suppliers would have told me that it is my problem, I overtightened the screws. Said a LOT about Victron when they just swapped it out, for I was preparing for a repair bill, having to wait months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 And you can get them locally 😆 Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Manie said: And you can get them locally If there is still stock, jip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 In an existing bank that has parallels, eg 4x12v for a 24v bank I would use 2, and keep midpoints seperate, no question. In a new bank you could get away with one. Point being you cannot tie midpoints together now that you buy a ballancer. The imbalance already exists in some way if it's been used a while. A ballancer is a prevention not a cure. These victron ones can sink one amp max, thats only 12-14w. The principal is it compares voltage on the upper and lower batteries and in a charge(usually absorb) if one shows higher voltage it will start to apply a load across the higher one to slow down its charge. I've got some teardown pics somewhere I'll see if I can find them Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk viper_za 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KLEVA Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 1. If you look at the back of the HA02 it shows 2.4V minimum (not 1.2V on previous post). 2. Glad didn't recommend supplier, they just (after a week) came back with a cancelled order (no-stock). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Now i am confuse, do i need 2 for a 4 batteries in a 24 volt system ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Manie, I would recommend 2 if the batteries are old. If they are new you can tie the midpoints together and use one. Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper_za Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Manie said: Now i am confuse, do i need 2 for a 4 batteries in a 24 volt system ? How many banks do you have Manie? Update your signature then it's easier to know Is it 4 x 6v batteries that make up one 24v bank? Edited May 11, 2016 by viper_za Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 1. If you look at the back of the HA02 it shows 2.4V minimum (not 1.2V on previous post). 2. Glad didn't recommend supplier, they just (after a week) came back with a cancelled order (no-stock). Do you know if these HA ballancers only do their thing during a charge? I couldn't see anything on that, its an important distinction. But the wider input range is nice for non 12v configurations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLEVA Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Weasel said: Do you know if these HA ballancers only do their thing during a charge? I couldn't see anything on that, its an important distinction. But the wider input range is nice for non 12v configurations My assumption would be yes, doubt those small cables could carry any form of reasonable load. Mark and Weasel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Weasel said: Manie, I would recommend 2 if the batteries are old. If they are new you can tie the midpoints together and use one. Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk I have 4 x 12 volt batteries (24v System) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 4 hours ago, viper_za said: How many banks do you have Manie? I have 4 x 12 volt batteries (24v System) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Anyone know off the top of their heads what the max equalization current is for Victron balancer? And HA balancers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said: Anyone know off the top of their heads what the max equalization current is for Victron balancer? And HA balancers? HA02 = 0-10A I have one and I am very happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Better HA's and Victron the improve their devices to also cater for 6v Trojans ... or else ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, Mark said: HA02 = 0-10A I have one and I am very happy... Where did you buy yours Mark ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 From China with Edmund... shared the postage... see my PVOutput to see the MidP voltages... I seldom get more than 0.2% difference and then the HA02 balances the bank quickly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 21 hours ago, The Terrible Triplett said: Having said that, IF you do find a problem, email them direct, and they will assist. I cannot tell you just how responsive this company is, and how willing to help. If you're a professional/developer/builder who want to integrate their stuff into a new product, they absolutely go out of their way to help. Sometimes I wonder if Matthijs ever sleeps :-) I'm somewhat in the middle of a new adventure here, so more about that later :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hobson Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 6 hours ago, The Terrible Triplett said: Anyone know off the top of their heads what the max equalization current is for Victron balancer? And HA balancers? 5 hours ago, The Terrible Triplett said: Better HA's and Victron the improve their devices to also cater for 6v Trojans ... or else ... The HA02 can do 6V and the HA01 0-5A. TTT is starting to take a Mandarin language course. First its the Voltronics inverters and now the Chinese battery balancers. Looks like its is going to be Chinese take-away when I visit in Sept . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Chicken Noodles ... and it will be running dog flavor just because. (lekker gril julle nou ne!) Seriously, Chris, 4 x 6v batts, I will need one HA02? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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