This post has totally gone haywire on my tablet, no more in date order, seems like you have sorted out your problem by replacing your inverter, sorry for my late reply, broke my leg a couple weeks ago and was out of the loop for a while.

 

On 2019/12/26 at 1:06 PM, Len225 said:

Hi, I’m new to the forum and hope someone could please assist. Have purchased a new RCT VM3 5kva with 2x Dyness B4850 batteries to replace my previous Axpert 5kva/ Lead Acid setup. Have connected up the above 100% by the book but now getting fault code 61 (communication failure) between the inverter and batteries. I’m using a custom Comms cable (made up for Axpert King by the Dyness supplier) via RS485 Port.  I have two of these cables and have tried the second comms cable also but the problem continues.
 

The battery PIP settings are as per Dyness manual for Voltronic inverter (pin 3 on on master, all pins off on slave)  but have also experimented around this without success. The inverter setting 05 has also been set to ‘Pyl’on. 
 

Would appreciate any advice! 
 

thanks 

 

 

I am having a same problem but this time with 3*US2000 pylontech and a Kodak MK .I put setting 5 to PYL but there error 61 started flashing,still on this setting I couldn't change values.After less than an hour the inverter disconnected all chargers and no output.I then put the setting 5 on USE and manage to adjust the values and now seems working.

Looking forward to seeing what will happen in the next hour.

On 2020/03/04 at 12:52 PM, Asto said:

I am having a same problem but this time with 3*US2000 pylontech and a Kodak MK .I put setting 5 to PYL but there error 61 started flashing,still on this setting I couldn't change values.After less than an hour the inverter disconnected all chargers and no output.I then put the setting 5 on USE and manage to adjust the values and now seems working.

Looking forward to seeing what will happen in the next hour.

Make sure you have the comms cable that came with the Kodak the correct way around... On the one end it has a label "pylon'...

Don't ask me how i know this🙈 It happens to the best of us....

Hi all,

 

Has anyone got the VM3 to communicate with the Dyness B4850 BMS yet?

I have these products on order and I am hoping that this issues has been resolved already...

I believe that the VM III uses the same version of remote display firmware as the Axpert King (with slightly different behaviour, as small parts of the code are unique to either VM III or King). So it might be worth trying removable display firmware version 02.49 for Axpert Kings (available from the files section of this forum). I have no idea what main VM III firmware is needed to go with this, but there is a decent chance that verse 41.14 (seems common in recently bought VM IIIs) will work. If not, you could request the latest main firmware (and display firmware perhaps) from your supplier. The display firmware handles all the interaction with the battery BMS. BMS direct connection is only available on 5 kW models. Dyness does not specifically appear on the battery type menu (setting 05), but there are 6 BMSs to choose from (including Pylontech). 

Edited August 29, 20205 yr by Coulomb
BMS' → BMSs

I no longer have my VM3 but long story short, my comms issues back in January with the VM3/Dyness B4850 were caused by the battery software and not the VM3 as I assumed. I replaced the VM3 at the time but still had some comms issues with the new Growatt I replaced with until Dyness arranged for the battery software to be updated which sorted it all out.

I believe there were also circuit board issues with some of the late 2019 B4850 batteries and that Dyness have since replaced boards in these batteries. From my understanding of what caused the issues I had and what Dyness has changed since, you should not have the same issues  

On 2019/12/26 at 11:32 PM, Wilfred said:

Hi,

As far as I know, Dyness is pretty much the same as Pylontech as they split off from Pylontech.

Can you maybe post a picture of the ports you are using on the batteries? Error 61 is basically communication error, just set 05 back to USE for now.

What settings did the dealer suggest for 02, 12, 13, 26, 27 and 29? These will just be setup manually without the communication cable. When the communication cable are sorted out, those settings will happen automatically.

Hi, my name is John, and i have a similar configuration. (Axpert MKS VM III  5000 48V with 2 Dyness B4850

This is the reply from Dyness:

As mentioned, you are using 2 units of B4850 and 5kW VMIII, which is far away from our recommendation.

Usually Dyness suggests users to use battery in 0.5C, the ratio of battery to inverter will be 2kWh:1kW, a 5kW inverter would be better to work with 10kWh battery, in Dyness range, you can do 4*B4850 or a Powerbox F-10.0.

 

About settings, you can find in user manual attached, page 18.

Battery parameter settings on the inverter

Max Charging(Bulk) Voltage: 53.5V Absorption Voltage: 53V
Float Voltage: 52.5V
Shut Down(cut off) Voltage: 47V Shut Down(cut off) SOC: 20% Restart Voltage: 49V

Max Charge Current: 25A*battery QTY Max Discharge Current: 25A*battery QTY Capacity:1*B4850=50Ah

4 hours ago, John Bijker said:

Hi, my name is John, and i have a similar configuration. (Axpert MKS VM III  5000 48V with 2 Dyness B4850

This is the reply from Dyness:

As mentioned, you are using 2 units of B4850 and 5kW VMIII, which is far away from our recommendation.

Usually Dyness suggests users to use battery in 0.5C, the ratio of battery to inverter will be 2kWh:1kW, a 5kW inverter would be better to work with 10kWh battery, in Dyness range, you can do 4*B4850 or a Powerbox F-10.0.

 

About settings, you can find in user manual attached, page 18.

Battery parameter settings on the inverter

Max Charging(Bulk) Voltage: 53.5V Absorption Voltage: 53V
Float Voltage: 52.5V
Shut Down(cut off) Voltage: 47V Shut Down(cut off) SOC: 20% Restart Voltage: 49V

Max Charge Current: 25A*battery QTY Max Discharge Current: 25A*battery QTY Capacity:1*B4850=50Ah

I've encountered this prescriptiveness with 'big blue'. And with them it almost makes sense since their inverters are transformer based and require massive startup current. Most of the more modern designs of inverter aren't battery hogs, though.