Mark1981 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Hi, I wanted to use a Rasberry PI 4 and connect to my Axpert VP 1K/1000W inverter for basic monitoring My invert has the following communication ports on the side (attached pic) Which do I need to use for monitoring? Or can I use either one? I received a serial to ethernet cable (attached pic) with the inverter which I assume I could connect to the ethernet port and then use a serial to USB converter to connect to my Rasberry PI? Otherwise can I use a standard printer USB cable (attached pic) to plug into the USB port and directly into the PI? Thanks very much for all your help. I am very new to inverters Regards, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Hi Mark which program are you using on the Raspberry for the monitoring? The printer USB cable should work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1981 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 Thanks very much for the reply I hadn't decided yet. It's just to tinker around and do some basic monitoring so I didn't want to buy something like ICC I read a bit about watch power but doesn't sound like I can run it on raspberry Pi So I was looking at this https://www.playbackdesign.com/pd-axpert/ I am definitely open to suggestions though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I think most people with Axperts use ICC for their monitoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVC Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Mark1981 said: I am definitely open to suggestions though. I am tinkering with node-red which is a very user-friendly program and will soon open a topic where you are able to copy my settings as a start and from there you will be able to expand it...if you want to. francois, BrettGG and ROMAN KHAN 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GielR Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Anyone have any luck with pd-axpert? I've been tinkering with the pi, but every time I try to install pd-axpert, it fails to load dependancies and goes into an endless boot cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iops Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Don't have any experience with pd-axpert, I've linked two projects that I've played around with before that have worked for me. These require a little more work, I was piping the JSON data into InfluxDB and visualising it in Grafana. How are you installing pd-axpert? Maybe I can help. https://github.com/manio/skymax-demo https://github.com/lluisball/godenerg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1981 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 I am also looking at developing something myself as I am just looking for basic monitoring and not filling with any inverter settings remotely or anything like that. Then I could also send myself notifications around various states such as battery voltage. I have worked on linux for a long time and have done a lot of bash scripting and a little bit of perl but never worked with python. From the scripts I have found on github to communicate with axpert most seem to use python but also be a lot more involved and have options for changing inverter settings. Does anyone just have a basic script which communicates to the inverter and calls the QPIGS command (looks like the one I need) and outputs the data. If there was a bash script that would be awesome as I would have the knowledge to understand it and change it to add my additional functionality such as notifications. But otherwise if python is the only option I am fine with calling a python script and parsing the data in a bash script to handle my additional functionality. Does anyone know if a basic script like this. Simply call it, it reads through USB and outputs the results from QPIGS Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If you just want to do it in bash, I suspect you could send the QPIGS command to the serial port using echo not 100% sure on the syntax, but maybe something like: echo "QPIGS" > /dev/ttyUSB0 You will probably need to set things like the baud rate etc. I think a bit of googling will probably help there. Then you could probably read the response with cat Parsing the response is probably going to be the hardest part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theokie Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Hi, you can try the script I made for myself to get an inverter monitor going quickly on pi. https://github.com/BionicWeb/AxpertPi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 2020/07/24 at 12:25 PM, Stanley said: If you just want to do it in bash, I suspect you could send the QPIGS command to the serial port using echo not 100% sure on the syntax, but maybe something like: echo "QPIGS" > /dev/ttyUSB0 You will probably need to set things like the baud rate etc. I think a bit of googling will probably help there. Then you could probably read the response with cat Parsing the response is probably going to be the hardest part. Hi Stanley. I have an inverter connect to a pi, pd axpert goes into perpetual boot cycle. ICC i could never get it to see the inverter Currently have solpiplog, which looks like icc, install and can't see the inverter still.. Ran the echo command and nothing happen. Lsusb shows my 2 inverters Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1997:1221 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The challenge i am having no matter which program is how to connect and get the program talking to the inverters. Please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 2020/07/24 at 1:01 PM, Theokie said: Hi, you can try the script I made for myself to get an inverter monitor going quickly on pi. https://github.com/BionicWeb/AxpertPi Hi. I have tried the script. I have an axpert king on the latest firmware. Lsusb sees the 2 inverters on a usb serial. Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter After running all the install commands i done know how to stand up the container for docker. If i use the command from nedkelly docker-compose up -d Nothing happens. You to this point your instructions are clear. After the above nedkelly seems instructive but nothing happens side i am using your script not his. I am at wits end. Do you have a similar guide for non techies? Please help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theokie Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lewis said: Hi. I have tried the script. I have an axpert king on the latest firmware. Lsusb sees the 2 inverters on a usb serial. Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter After running all the install commands i done know how to stand up the container for docker. If i use the command from nedkelly docker-compose up -d Nothing happens. You to this point your instructions are clear. After the above nedkelly seems instructive but nothing happens side i am using your script not his. I am at wits end. Do you have a similar guide for non techies? Please help. Hi Lewis, The containers will start by themselves, you don't need to run docker-compose. What do you see when you run docker ps Should look something like this: pi@raspberrypi:~ $ docker ps CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES 75877f83e7b0 homeassistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:stable "/init" 2 days ago Up 2 days home-assistant 9eeeb6e89f7f containrrr/watchtower "/watchtower --inter…" 8 days ago Up 7 days 8080/tcp watchtower c1099e1bcc4f eclipse-mosquitto "/docker-entrypoint.…" 8 days ago Up 7 days 0.0.0.0:1883->1883/tcp mqtt e2907cc40d9e bushrangers/ha-voltronic-mqtt "/bin/bash /opt/inve…" 8 days ago Up 7 days (healthy) voltronic-mqtt Edited August 3, 2020 by Theokie Added info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Theokie said: Hi Lewis, The containers will start by themselves, you don't need to run docker-compose. What do you see when you run docker ps Should look something like this: pi@raspberrypi:~ $ docker ps CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES 75877f83e7b0 homeassistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:stable "/init" 2 days ago Up 2 days home-assistant 9eeeb6e89f7f containrrr/watchtower "/watchtower --inter…" 8 days ago Up 7 days 8080/tcp watchtower c1099e1bcc4f eclipse-mosquitto "/docker-entrypoint.…" 8 days ago Up 7 days 0.0.0.0:1883->1883/tcp mqtt e2907cc40d9e bushrangers/ha-voltronic-mqtt "/bin/bash /opt/inve…" 8 days ago Up 7 days (healthy) voltronic-mqtt Let me do this and revert. However the system does not seem to see my inverter connected. I will install again while the pi is already connected to the inverter. Thank you for the speedy reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Lewis said: Let me do this and revert. However the system does not seem to see my inverter connected. I will install again while the pi is already connected to the inverter. Thank you for the speedy reply. Redid a new installation and ssh'ed into the pi 4, while it is already connected to only one inverter, an axpert king 5kw 1. sudo apt update 2. sudo apt upgrade 3. Then run script from your github after the full update on a fresh install. curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/BionicWeb/AxpertPi/master/axpertpi.sh?$(date +%s) | sudo bash 4. after above its saying: "Resolving deltas: 100% (121/121), done. ERROR: Couldn't connect to Docker daemon at http+docker://localhost - is it running?" 5. Running " sudo docker ps" Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docke r daemon running?" 6. I attach my ssh log. 7 went to https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/6677, and executed the following to see if after reboot i can contunue sudo groupadd docker sudo usermod -aG docker $USER newgrp docker 8. After reboot i have run 3 again. and then sudo docker ps. its now working. 9. Did the following and noted device was not on ttyUSB0 it was expecting direct USB. so edited that everthing elso not changed. cd /opt/ha-inverter-mqtt-agent # Configure the 'device=' directive (in inverter.conf) to suit for RS232 or USB.. sudo nano config/inverter.conf install error.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theokie Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Thanks Lewis, will check tomorrow and try and make a quick youtube video where I go from scratch and install on my kodak king 5kw and just make sure everything is running as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 10. went to HA ip and tried my user names and went to configuration entities and enabled all entities, 9 went up but any to do with the inverter remain marked with an x. Pressed a botton on home screen and got " voltronic_AC_grid_voltage SETTINGSRELATED This entity does not have a unique ID, therefore its settings cannot be managed from the UI." 11. Rebooted computer... and now have sensor.voltonic battery not available and may trainables in orange with exclamation mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Theokie said: Thanks Lewis, will check tomorrow and try and make a quick youtube video where I go from scratch and install on my kodak king 5kw and just make sure everything is running as it should. Thank you good night. I then tried 12. sudo docker exec -it voltronic-mqtt bash -c '/opt/inverter-cli/bin/inverter_poller -d -1' [email protected]'s password: Linux raspberrypi 5.4.51-v7l+ #1327 SMP Thu Jul 23 11:04:39 BST 2020 armv7l The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Mon Aug 3 21:56:37 2020 pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo docker exec -it voltronic-mqtt bash -c '/opt/inverter-cli/bin/inverter_poller -d -1' Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: Debug set Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: 49 C1 Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: QMOD reply size (5 bytes) Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: QMOD: incorrect start/stop bytes. Buffer: (N configuration options for the actual inverter polling process... # This config file is for Axpert King 5KW 48V version. # I will try and get more config options for other models. # The device to read from... # Use: /dev/ttyS0 if you have a serial device, # /dev/ttyUSB0 if a USB<>Serial, # /dev/hidraw0 if you're connecting via the USB port on the inverter. device=/dev/ttyUSB0 # How many times per hour is the program going to run... # This is used to calculate the PV & Load Watt Hours between runs... # If unsure, leave as default - it will run every minute... # (120 = every 30 seconds)... run_interval=120 # This allows you to modify the amperage in case the inverter is giving an incorrect # reading compared to measurement tools. Normally this will remain '1' amperage_factor=1.0 # This allows you to modify the wattage in case the inverter is giving an incorrect # reading compared to measurement tools. Normally this will remain '1' watt_factor=1.01 # The following settings allow you to Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: B7 A9 Mon Aug 3 20:01:21 2020 INVERTER: QPIGS read timeout Mon Aug 3 20:01:21 2020 INVERTER: QPIGS reply too short (7 bytes) Mon Aug 3 20:01:21 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: F8 54 Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 INVERTER: QPIRI read timeout Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 INVERTER: QPIRI reply too short (14 bytes) Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: B4 DA Mon Aug 3 20:01:27 2020 INVERTER: QPIWS read timeout Mon Aug 3 20:01:27 2020 INVERTER: QPIWS reply too short (2 bytes) ^Cpi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1997:1221 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1981 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 I have just installed my rasberry PI and connected it to the Axpert inverter lsusb seems to show the device pi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hubBus 001 Device 003: ID 0665:5161 Cypress Semiconductor USB to Serial Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub pi@raspberrypi:~ $ However there is no mapping to a usb port in /dev/ttyUSB at all. From what I understand there should be? I found this article https://community.cypress.com/thread/30352?start=0&tstart=0 which seems to be talking about the same thing where it is being picked up as an HID device instead of a standard serial device. Mine seems to be doing the same: From /var/log/messages Aug 5 06:07:04 raspberrypi kernel: [ 2.172735] hid-generic 0003:0665:5161.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Device [HID 0665:5161] on usb-0000:01:00.0-1.3/input0 I was just wondering if this is a common issue and if there is a simple solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1981 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 pi@raspberrypi:/sys/class/tty $ usb-devices ..... T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0 Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0665 ProdID=5161 Rev=00.02 #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA I: If#=0x0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=usbhid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Mark1981 said: pi@raspberrypi:/sys/class/tty $ usb-devices ..... T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0 Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0665 ProdID=5161 Rev=00.02 #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA I: If#=0x0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=usbhid You are not liking for a tty device is you use the micro usb or printer type cable. Tty is only for usb serial cables. From your entries hidraw0 is the one you want. On 2020/08/03 at 6:45 PM, Theokie said: Hi Lewis, The containers will start by themselves, you don't need to run docker-compose. What do you see when you run docker ps Should look something like this: pi@raspberrypi:~ $ docker ps CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES 75877f83e7b0 homeassistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:stable "/init" 2 days ago Up 2 days home-assistant 9eeeb6e89f7f containrrr/watchtower "/watchtower --inter…" 8 days ago Up 7 days 8080/tcp watchtower c1099e1bcc4f eclipse-mosquitto "/docker-entrypoint.…" 8 days ago Up 7 days 0.0.0.0:1883->1883/tcp mqtt e2907cc40d9e bushrangers/ha-voltronic-mqtt "/bin/bash /opt/inve…" 8 days ago Up 7 days (healthy) voltronic-mqtt Let me do this and revert. However the system does not seem to see my inverter connected. I will install again while the pi is already connected to the inverter. Thank you for the speedy reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Mark1981 said: I have just installed my rasberry PI and connected it to the Axpert inverter lsusb seems to show the device pi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hubBus 001 Device 003: ID 0665:5161 Cypress Semiconductor USB to Serial Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub pi@raspberrypi:~ $ However there is no mapping to a usb port in /dev/ttyUSB at all. From what I understand there should be? I found this article https://community.cypress.com/thread/30352?start=0&tstart=0 which seems to be talking about the same thing where it is being picked up as an HID device instead of a standard serial device. Mine seems to be doing the same: From /var/log/messages Aug 5 06:07:04 raspberrypi kernel: [ 2.172735] hid-generic 0003:0665:5161.0001: hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Device [HID 0665:5161] on usb-0000:01:00.0-1.3/input0 I was just wondering if this is a common issue and if there is a simple solution? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0665:5161 Cypress Semiconductor USB to Serial That's a usb cable connection? If yes it will identify as hidraw#... 0 is usually the default if you have no other usb devices connected. dmesg | grep -i usb will show you which come to specify in the config file. After that the homeassist just started pitching the values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helgard de Villiers Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 2020/07/23 at 1:06 PM, iops said: Don't have any experience with pd-axpert, I've linked two projects that I've played around with before that have worked for me. These require a little more work, I was piping the JSON data into InfluxDB and visualising it in Grafana. How are you installing pd-axpert? Maybe I can help. https://github.com/manio/skymax-demo https://github.com/lluisball/godenerg If you can maybe help me with this. I have ICC but I enjoy the dashboards of Grafana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) On 2020/08/03 at 6:32 PM, Lewis said: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Looks like they've switched the vendor for their USB->Serial chip. What do you get when you run: ls /dev/ EDIT: I see this post is really old, but still curious if it shows up under dev with the different chip. Or maybe the inverter is a fake/clone? Edited January 4, 2021 by Gnome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBohnen Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2020/08/03 at 10:03 PM, Lewis said: Thank you good night. I then tried 12. sudo docker exec -it voltronic-mqtt bash -c '/opt/inverter-cli/bin/inverter_poller -d -1' [email protected]'s password: Linux raspberrypi 5.4.51-v7l+ #1327 SMP Thu Jul 23 11:04:39 BST 2020 armv7l The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Mon Aug 3 21:56:37 2020 pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo docker exec -it voltronic-mqtt bash -c '/opt/inverter-cli/bin/inverter_poller -d -1' Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: Debug set Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: 49 C1 Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: QMOD reply size (5 bytes) Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: QMOD: incorrect start/stop bytes. Buffer: (N configuration options for the actual inverter polling process... # This config file is for Axpert King 5KW 48V version. # I will try and get more config options for other models. # The device to read from... # Use: /dev/ttyS0 if you have a serial device, # /dev/ttyUSB0 if a USB<>Serial, # /dev/hidraw0 if you're connecting via the USB port on the inverter. device=/dev/ttyUSB0 # How many times per hour is the program going to run... # This is used to calculate the PV & Load Watt Hours between runs... # If unsure, leave as default - it will run every minute... # (120 = every 30 seconds)... run_interval=120 # This allows you to modify the amperage in case the inverter is giving an incorrect # reading compared to measurement tools. Normally this will remain '1' amperage_factor=1.0 # This allows you to modify the wattage in case the inverter is giving an incorrect # reading compared to measurement tools. Normally this will remain '1' watt_factor=1.01 # The following settings allow you to Mon Aug 3 20:01:18 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: B7 A9 Mon Aug 3 20:01:21 2020 INVERTER: QPIGS read timeout Mon Aug 3 20:01:21 2020 INVERTER: QPIGS reply too short (7 bytes) Mon Aug 3 20:01:21 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: F8 54 Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 INVERTER: QPIRI read timeout Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 INVERTER: QPIRI reply too short (14 bytes) Mon Aug 3 20:01:24 2020 INVERTER: Current CRC: B4 DA Mon Aug 3 20:01:27 2020 INVERTER: QPIWS read timeout Mon Aug 3 20:01:27 2020 INVERTER: QPIWS reply too short (2 bytes) ^Cpi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1997:1221 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub @Lewisdid you ever come right with this? I've got the same problem and can't seem to get anything to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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