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2 hours ago, TinkerBoy said:

Well done. You still using windows XP. That is full of security holes.

I also still use XP. In a Virtualbox. Once in a blue moon. NATed at least twice (once by the ADLS router, again by virtualbox's networking). Zero risk of anything bad happening there.

Technically this doesn't really constitute "use" tough, so touché :-)

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20 hours ago, TinkerBoy said:

Well done. You still using windows XP. That is full of security holes.

XP PC is not connected to the internet though.

I already got a Asus VivoMini for monitoring and which is not running XP.  ;)  Apparently its power consumption is in the region of 7 watts.

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12 hours ago, superdiy said:

XP PC is not connected to the internet though.

I already got a Asus VivoMini for monitoring and which is not running XP.  ;)  Apparently its power consumption is in the region of 7 watts.

Hi Superdiy

I'm currently busy bringing industrial mini pc's in Quad core Celeron and up to I7-5005u

4 x serial ports and up to 6 usb ports. Onboard ssd drive as well as extended sd-card slot and only using between 2 - 5w pending on configuration.

Units size is 204mm x 135mm x 40mm and no fans, using aluminium casing. Power supply is an external 12v.

This should be ideal for use in a solar room, collecting data and monitoring the system

I'll send you info if you are interested.

Chris

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8 hours ago, TinkerBoy said:

Pi is only 2 watt LOL

I can live with that.

Thing is, I'm developing my own software and needs Windows to run it. I'm not familiar with Pi's except for the ones you buy at the garage when you leave the pub at 02:30. :) The VivoMini will replace my current garage PC (the one currently running XP) and I will also use it to design PC boards and for WinAVR for the Atmels, etc. etc. - basically it will be a multi-purpose PC and therefor I decided to get the VivoMini instead of a Pi.

 

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9 hours ago, Chris Rossouw said:

Hi Superdiy

I'm currently busy bringing industrial mini pc's in Quad core Celeron and up to I7-5005u

4 x serial ports and up to 6 usb ports. Onboard ssd drive as well as extended sd-card slot and only using between 2 - 5w pending on configuration.

Units size is 204mm x 135mm x 40mm and no fans, using aluminium casing. Power supply is an external 12v.

This should be ideal for use in a solar room, collecting data and monitoring the system

I'll send you info if you are interested.

Chris

Thanks Chris, but I've already bought the VivoMini a while ago.

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59 minutes ago, superdiy said:

Maybe in a few year's time when the Pi9 is available I'll start fiddling with it. :D

I'm waiting for a board that boasts a Arm7/8/9 or maybe a Cortex A8 with on-board bluetooth and ethernet... preferably for 25USD. Something like the Beaglebone Green, but cheaper and with bluetooth. The new Victron MPPTs have built-in bluetooth (some of them anyway) and I believe more hardware will follow. Venus will port to that board in a matter of days. Then I'll be in heaven as far as software is concerned :-)

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Pi = 0 Tablet = 1

My Mecer tablet turned out to be a hidden gem. I mean come on, with all this as standard:

  • Processor: Intel Bay Quad Core 3735F CPU
  • RAM: 2GB DDR
  • Hard Drive: 32GB NAND Flash Memory (eMMC)
  • Embedded 802.11 b/g/n Wireless LAN OR get model with Embedded Huawei MU739 3G/HSPA+ Module (21 Mbps)
  • Built-in 2.0 Pixel Front Camera and 2.0M Pixel Rear Camera
  • Built-in Micro SD Card Reader (for extended memory up to 64GB)
  • Built-in Sound, Speakers and Microphone
  • 1 x USB2.0, 1 x Micro USB2.0, 1 x Micro HDMI
  • Li-Polymer Battery (6000 mAh, 6.5 hours operating) & Charger)
  • Folder-Type Carry Case
  • 8.9” LCD Gorilla Glass Touch Screen Full HD (1920 x 1200)

Not only light on juice, it can do a few more things that needs to be done every night eliminating the hardware I used to have on for those "jobs". :D

And with a Skype call, if I am not home and need to look at something, anyone home can pick up the tablet and point the camera to where I need to look.

The Pi's lost the race on not only cost if I added all the above to the Pi, but also due to the fact that a Pi cannot do all I now do, and can do, on the tablet. :P

EDIT: I paid R1699.00 for it.

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2 minutes ago, The Terrible Triplett said:

Pi = 0 Tablet = 1

That's another possibility. These cheap Android devices coming from China. Arm processor. Bluetooth. WiFi. Camera. Runs Linux (Android is Linux). Even has USB host capabilities sometimes. I'm thinking of the Redmi phones for example. Looks like 1.4k is the cheapest now. That's actually BeagleBone Black territory...

It has to run Linux. I'm don't trust any solution where I'm not in control of the license.

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1 minute ago, plonkster said:

It has to run Linux. I'm don't trust any solution where I'm not in control of the license.

And I say it must never be Linux or Android. I trust all solutions where I'm charged for a licence, after I agreed with their T&C's. 

Like buying a tablet with licensed Win8 and getting a free upgrade to a licensed device linked Win10 (free upgrades are over by the way), making the tablet even more responsive with no effort nor cost on my part, to re-install Win10 on it as I see fit, at no additional license cost. :P

Yes the Android tablets are quite a bit cheaper, good point ... if that blows your hair back.

Forum members now have more options: Tablets - with OS of their choosing.

If you do want to use Linux, that is OK.
If you do NOT want to use Linux, that is OK.

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To be fair, I think the modern direction is that we write software that runs on both. But this isn't really why I have issues with licensing.

The reason I have issues with licensing is that I am primarily building a piece of software (or helping build it) that will run on thousands of consumer-facing devices that are technically "embedded". They are not computers where you install new things every other day, where the user chooses the OS based on a preference or some specific piece of software he might want to use. It's a device built for a specific target, and I ship "firmware" that includes that software which I do not own. This is true even with Linux: I Ship firmware that includes components I do not own.

If I'm building a device that inherently relies on commercial software (from any company, but in this case Microsoft) I am tying the future success of my product to this one company. To even have the right to ship this product, I will have to buy a license for every one, and I even agree that on a moral level this is right: If I make money with their stuff, they deserve to get a cut.

Like with laptops, I will have to buy a lifetime license that is tied to the hardware (with all the trickiness that comes with that) in order that the end user isn't burdened with that, so that I reserve the right to provide updates based on that commercial platform. From the view point of the end user, he's using a purpose made device and he doesn't care what is on it really, just that it works.

The tablet model (that ships with an end-user OS) is therefore entirely the wrong thing for my purposes. I'm not building something just for myself. I'm potentially building something that will become a packaged product.

With that said, you're right though. Whatever you use is okay. Whatever you do is okay. It's your business. I'm a libertarian somewhere deep down there: If you want to shoot yourself in the foot, you can do that too. I'll even lobby the government to send you an ambulance :-)

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