Hi all,

I'm new to Powerforum, been on for a while but it's my first post so I hope ya'll are friendly tonight lol

Could anyone please provide me with reviews on this battery please?

And if possible also on the Averge 48v 100ah pretty please?

 

Thanks in advance

I cant comment on the Hoselect battery but a good friend has an Averge which is a rebranded Leoch, aimed to differentiate from those sold to the teleco's from what I am lead to believe.

Battery seems to perform well / without any issues at all. Their support also is very good (Averge in JHB) as his first battery was damaged in transit to Cape Town. They sent a new battery immediately and only collected the damage battery afterwards.

I personally went for Narada (very similar price) in my setup only due to the BMS comms to ICC which is not available for Averge currently. This was a key issue for me and I would strongly suggest ensuring that your battery can talk to your Inverter or what every is controlling your setup (i.e. ICC in my case) as otherwise you are running your system blind

LiFePO4

The cells are made by a few companies. Many buy the cell and put it in a name brand case. The chemical substance is also applied by controlled systems therefore they do get manufactured  like twins with a different stamp date.  In theory a LIPO bat is all using the same chemicals and therefore there is very little difference.

The difference is how you charge and discharge the batteries and the most important are the profit margins.  The most important part is not to over heat them. There are other technical stuff that is managed by the inverter. They are a lot easier to manage than lead acid.  If you get one at a good price it is a good battery then simply make sure they don't over heat. Most of the inverters have sufficient software and will cut off and control the current.

If esthetics matters and fancy electronics then they get more expensive but if they are in the dark and charged / discharge correctly then they are better priced do the same work and last the same discharge rates.
There are very cost effective over current relay that will protect your Lipo at a fraction of the cost.

 

On 2020/12/11 at 8:30 PM, SolergyAdmin said:

Could anyone please provide me with reviews on this battery please?

I cannot give any feedback on this battery, but I have noticed that majority batteries (including Pylontech) are made in China. The cells are basically all the same, but what changes is the BMS. For many of us, we don’t mind buying a Daly or ANT BMS and slapping it in should the standard BMS give any trouble at all. I took a chance a few weeks ago buying some cheaper “second life” lithium batteries on Black Friday special, and I am really impressed with how well they perform. Another forum member (Gandalf) also bought these same batteries and is happily running off grid with them for the last three weeks.

Some people prefer to have communication between inverter and battery, but for me, if my inverter switches off at 48V and my charge controller charges to 56v, why do I need communication? Added complexity and more gizmos don’t make sense to me. (This is my personal opinion) 

If it comes at good price and comes with at least a 5 year warranty, I would go for it. 

The "5 year warranty" will come with conditions, like which BMS did you use, what was the temp of the batteries, overcharge, faults etc?

So, if you're going to try save a few bucks make sure you have all the info before buying.....A good price today does not indicate an inexpensive total-cost-of-ownership over the life of your system.

Also, which inverter do you have, make sure your inverter can talk to your batteries.

Look at most of the posts on the forum are from people who buy parts that don't talk to each other and then have to start writing code etc. to get everything to work in a

half-arse fashion. 

 

Hi there - I Have a Hoselect battery, 48v but need the manual - this was lost during the installation process. 

Can someone please share a copy with me? I can DM for the details. 

On 2020/12/11 at 8:30 PM, SolergyAdmin said:

Hi all,

I'm new to Powerforum, been on for a while but it's my first post so I hope ya'll are friendly tonight lol

Could anyone please provide me with reviews on this battery please?

And if possible also on the Averge 48v 100ah pretty please?

 

Thanks in advance

I can't comment on Hoselect... however Averge batteries are known cell phone tower batteries and not a brand you would typically buy over the counter in SA read this..https://m-net.dstv.com/show/carte-blanche/news/do-you-have-a-stolen-deep-cycle-battery/news

On 2021/02/12 at 8:13 PM, Faith said:

Hi there - I Have a Hoselect battery, 48v but need the manual - this was lost during the installation process. 

Can someone please share a copy with me? I can DM for the details. 

@FaithHow is your battery performing? I've been looking to buy this brand

I'm also interested in Hoselect brand, saw a 12V 100Ah lifepo4 for R4.6k at Electromann SA. Has anyone shopped with them and how was the experience? 

Hoselect 100ah lifepO4

Anyone know who are the agents/importers of Hoselect?

HoSelect baterries 100ah 12 Volt are not good batteries. They are cheap but can not hold a load (100 amps) for longer than 5 sec which means they dropped below 12 volts very quickly. Pay more and get a decent battery

15 hours ago, Jorrie said:

HoSelect baterries 100ah 12 Volt are not good batteries. They are cheap but can not hold a load (100 amps) for longer than 5 sec which means they dropped below 12 volts very quickly. Pay more and get a decent battery

Do you have one and using it?

 

On 2021/04/07 at 6:24 PM, Tim003 said:

I'm also interested in Hoselect brand, saw a 12V 100Ah lifepo4 for R4.6k at Electromann SA. Has anyone shopped with them and how was the experience? 

Hoselect 100ah lifepO4

Not very inspiring if it is spelt Hoselest on the front of the battery?

On 2021/04/07 at 6:24 PM, Tim003 said:

I'm also interested in Hoselect brand, saw a 12V 100Ah lifepo4 for R4.6k at Electromann SA. Has anyone shopped with them and how was the experience? 

Hoselect 100ah lifepO4

I have been using it for the past 1.5 years and to be honest i would buy another one as this one is performing extremely well, im not a hard core enthusiast or anything when it comes to these things and run like capacity tests and all that however from what i can tell you for my needs and what im using it for it has been working proper, also another reason i would recommend it, the price is not so far off from a GEL 100Ah with more then double the lifespan and you can actually use up to 98% +- of its capacity with out doing damage to the cells and you have BMS protection, 1 other pro, it being a lifepo4 battery i can actually use it indoors in my home office and don't have to worry about any health risks compared to LAB's, another thing i found useful was the Mains switch on the battery its self plus volt/capacity meter which you wont find on a normal battery

Point to take home for the price and what it offers i don't see why you should not consider it, however at the time of this reply i see they dont offer it any more, i see Duda has it but haven't bought from them before

Current Setup-
Battery is the exact same one you listed bought from the same company running off a 2500W 12v pure sinewave UPS inverter connected to the Grid, UPS has solar inputs as well but only using the grid to charge up the battery, think of it as a very big PC UPS.
Load currently running on it.
2x 24" Full HD LCD monitors
1x Laptop with no laptop Battery so drawing power from the UPS
1x ONT
1xRouter
2x 8 port Switchers

Expected run time: +-10Hours

Regards

Hi everyone. Where can one buy the hoselect 48v lithium batteries for a good price. Where do you guys buy them from and for how much? I'm looking to buy 8 of them.

Thanks.

Bought a couple from Griin Energy, they have stock - seems like high demand on these units.

Bought one to work on my Luxpower SNA5000 last week, struggling to get it to talk to each other.

Anybody managed to get this right, please share settings and what cable you used (also which ports you plugged into)

Had to run as Lead acid, and let the Hoselect BMS manage.

On 2022/09/22 at 10:43 AM, SP123 said:

Bought a couple from Griin Energy, they have stock - seems like high demand on these units.

Bought one to work on my Luxpower SNA5000 last week, struggling to get it to talk to each other.

Anybody managed to get this right, please share settings and what cable you used (also which ports you plugged into)

Had to run as Lead acid, and let the Hoselect BMS manage.

How long did you wait for Griin Energy to deliver the batteries? I'm being ignored on the Whatsapp number and I already paid. I'm starting to suspect scam.

On 2022/09/30 at 10:34 AM, Neurik said:

How long did you wait for Griin Energy to deliver the batteries? I'm being ignored on the Whatsapp number and I already paid. I'm starting to suspect scam.

Yeah me too. Not replying to WA or emails. Electromann is legit, so is Security and More.

On 2022/09/11 at 7:33 PM, monare said:

Hi everyone. Where can one buy the hoselect 48v lithium batteries for a good price. Where do you guys buy them from and for how much? I'm looking to buy 8 of them.

Thanks.

Solar guyz gauteng 

0842843251

Selling at R19995.00

Just installed hoselect 48v 100ah. Seems to work ok but unable to find out who manufactures it as growatt inverter won’t communicate without the bms protocol code. Lbsa confirmed that they don’t produce these batteries despite it being advertised by sellers as such. 
I’m using protocol 2 as it’s the only one that doesn’t give and error

I purchased the 48v 100ah hoselect lithium ion a week ago from world of Sunpower. The battery never charged fully and I found out that 3 cells did not work. It’s now in for repairs at Easton. It seems to be a generic Chinese battery with no traceable manufacturer or support. Lbsa confirmed that resellers falsely claim that they manufacture it. 

I also recently installed one of these. I also have 3 faulty cells, any chance yours was 14, 15 and 16? I’m having buyers remorse on choosing this battery!!

On 2023/01/07 at 6:11 PM, Chrisbu said:

I also recently installed one of these. I also have 3 faulty cells, any chance yours was 14, 15 and 16? I’m having buyers remorse on choosing this battery!!

Do you have the 48v battery as mine all only show a total of 13 cells?

Anyone on this forum have a diagram showing how to connect the communication cables and dip switch settings for multiple hoselect 48v batteries? I have a Deye8kw inverter and currently connecting via Can to master and then daisy chaining the 3 batteries via rs485 A&B ports. Inverter only sees info from 1 battery, 3rd battery only recently added and not behaving properly not sure if it is because the original 2 have a lower capacity. 

42 minutes ago, Walter Perfect said:

Do you have the 48v battery as mine all only show a total of 13 cells?

16 LiFePO4 cells

 

This means that to make a 48V battery pack requires 16 LiFePO4 cells, 16 strings full voltage 16*3.2 = 51.2V, LiFePO4 is considered to be the most fireproof, and their LiFePO4 is considered to be the most fire-resistant, and they typically last twice as long as ordinary NCA/NCM 18650 battery packs.

You will see all your 13 cells are charging to around 4.2v to get to the charge voltage of 54/55v compared to the recommended max 3.6v which means you are damaging all your cells every time you charge them. I took mine back and it was confirmed faulty. I got a refund and replaced it with a Shoto battery.