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RIOT Cloudlink Sunsynk & Deye monitoring

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Hi Community.

For those with 8KW Sunsynk & Deye inverters you can now graph all data with your RIOT Cloudlink by simply plugging in a RJ45 cable into the RIOT MUL port and configuring the RIOT RS485 to Deye. Note that some older RIOT units might not support the graphing.

Ensure you have version 3.0 of the firmware on your Cloudlink device. If you do not have this yet, you will have it by next week as we're slowly rolling this out over the next week to everyone. You will then automatically get a upgraded dashboard.

Ensure you set the RIOT as per below if you have Verision 3.0. You can now remote console into your RIOT Cloudlink with the portal. 

We are still working on the 5KW Sunsynk graphing and remote control update. We're hoping to release that update soon.

Deye 8KW RIOT Dashboard.png

Cloudlink Sunsynk Select.png

  • 1 month later...

Please provide information in terms of how one should set this up?

Is it a normal network cable from RIOT MUL port to the RS485 port on the 8kw Sunsynk inverter?

Should the setup be as follows:

- Serial port on the RIOT to RS232 port on the battery

- MUL port on the RIOT to RS485 port on the inverter (normal network cable or special cable?)

- CAN port on the RIOT to CAN port on the inverter (normal network cable or special cable?)

 

 

  • 1 month later...
On 2021/08/25 at 1:01 PM, HubbleLithium said:

Hi Community.

For those with 8KW Sunsynk & Deye inverters you can now graph all data with your RIOT Cloudlink by simply plugging in a RJ45 cable into the RIOT MUL port and configuring the RIOT RS485 to Deye. Note that some older RIOT units might not support the graphing.

Ensure you have version 3.0 of the firmware on your Cloudlink device. If you do not have this yet, you will have it by next week as we're slowly rolling this out over the next week to everyone. You will then automatically get a upgraded dashboard.

Ensure you set the RIOT as per below if you have Verision 3.0. You can now remote console into your RIOT Cloudlink with the portal. 

We are still working on the 5KW Sunsynk graphing and remote control update. We're hoping to release that update soon.

Deye 8KW RIOT Dashboard.png

Cloudlink Sunsynk Select.png

I have:

  • Sunsynk 8kW inverter with "COMM: e419 MCU: 6005" firmware
  • 4 x Hubble Lithium AM-2
  • RIOT_Cloudlink_V1R2 with RIOT_CLoudLink_V3R1R5 firmware

I've setup the RIOT as per above image and the connections are as follows:

  • Hubble #1/Master battery CAN Port <--> Sunsynk Inverter CAN Port
  • RIOT SER Port <--> Hubble #1/Master battery RS232 Port
  • RIOT MUL Port <--> Sunsynk Inverter RS485 Port

All battery ID are set as per manual and interconnected via Battery Port.

Unfortunately the RIOT is not detecting the inverter.

I tested the SunSynk RS485 with Solar-Assistant and the port works.
I tested RIOT to Sunsynk with 2 different RJ45 Ethernet cables and no work.

image.png.4308ddbf19df9a6da0ed2708679f2995.png
 

Any idea why the RIOT is not connecting to the inverter?

EDIT: In the newer v4 RIOT manual, they indicate that the RS485 cable is not a regular Ethernet cable.
The cable must only have pins 7 & 8 connected.
See my post below for further information.

 

Edited by system32
Typo

  • 4 weeks later...
  • 1 month later...

Hi.

I purchased 3 x AM-2's, a cloudlink and the 8Kw Sunsynk inverter from the powerforum store.

I am having the same problems:

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After a week of back and forth, my installer spoke to a senior technician at hubble who confirmed the cloudlink is installed and configured correctly and that full monitoring is not yet working with the 8kw Sunsynk.

 Do we have an eta on when this will be fixed?

Also as per

https://www.hubblelithium.co.za/sunsynk-hubble-setup.html

image.png.5fc1f4b8a1a21aa54c2ddb6bb6aad793.png

full monitoring is available.

 

Kindly advise @HubbleLithium

Edited by Gefahrlich

  • 2 weeks later...

I'm having same issues, I logged a ticket with Hubble last week and the response was that due to unforeseen errors full monitoring is not available with the 8kw sunsync 

  • 3 months later...
  • 3 months later...
  • 1 month later...
On 2021/11/22 at 12:30 PM, system32 said:

I have:

  • Sunsynk 8kW inverter with "COMM: e419 MCU: 6005" firmware
  • 4 x Hubble Lithium AM-2
  • RIOT_Cloudlink_V1R2 with RIOT_CLoudLink_V3R1R5 firmware

I've setup the RIOT as per above image and the connections are as follows:

  • Hubble #1/Master battery CAN Port <--> Sunsynk Inverter CAN Port
  • RIOT SER Port <--> Hubble #1/Master battery RS232 Port
  • RIOT MUL Port <--> Sunsynk Inverter RS485 Port

All battery ID are set as per manual and interconnected via Battery Port.

Unfortunately the RIOT is not detecting the inverter.

I tested the SunSynk RS485 with Solar-Assistant and the port works.
I tested RIOT to Sunsynk with 2 different RJ45 Ethernet cables and no work.

image.png.4308ddbf19df9a6da0ed2708679f2995.png
 

Any idea why the RIOT is not connecting to the inverter?
 

@system32did you ever get this sorted out? I'm struggling with this atm (but with a 5kW SunSynk). Battery info is there but the inverter & PV info isn't. 

On 2022/10/04 at 8:22 PM, StepbyStep said:

@system32did you ever get this sorted out? I'm struggling with this atm (but with a 5kW SunSynk). Battery info is there but the inverter & PV info isn't. 

In order to get the RIOT to work you need to connect as follows:image.thumb.png.da8764f668ec06d35cad87161c38ec0d.png

Or (option 2):
image.thumb.png.d6cac23eadd60f1f5381797a48740dc4.png
In the 2nd config, the RIOT acts as/emulates a BMS - it translates the RS232 console to Canbus.
This is not necessary as SunSynk firmware has direct support for Hubble AM-2 via Canbus.
A RIOT is not required at all in a SunSynk / Hubble AM-2 installation.

I've tested both and prefer the first option where the SunSynk is direct connected via canbus to the AM-2 BMS.

NOTE: You need special RS485 cable to get RIOT to communicate with SunSynk (only pins 7 & 8 connected)
Normal Ethernet LAN cables do not seem to work with the RIOT MOD port.
See page 11 of "Cloudlink Setup Guide v4.0.pdf" https://www.hubblelithium.co.za/_files/ugd/c0fc0a_ed19d4bfa78f4873846638e251a62ed4.pdf
image.png

Remember to configure the RIOT:
image.png.13634354a614a3af543902dcf301461c.png

If you have Solar Assistant you can share the SunSynk RS485 modbus port with a splitter.
image.png

I prefer Solar Assistant over RIOT as

  • Solar Assistant allows access to sensor data via MQTT for integration to Home Assistant & Grafana
  • Solar Assistant is local - no cloud required

Edited by system32

On 2022/10/04 at 6:22 PM, StepbyStep said:

@system32did you ever get this sorted out? I'm struggling with this atm (but with a 5kW SunSynk). Battery info is there but the inverter & PV info isn't. 

I have the same issue with my 5k Sunsynk. Hubble promised the same functionality for the 5k as with the 8k, but this does not seem to have materialised. I have had Hubble take a look, but they cannot seem to resolve the issue.

Another outstanding issue is the fact that my 3 Hubble batteries charge well until 89%, then it reduces to a trickle charge of about 2-3 amps per battery for 6 to 7 hours. The ticket is outstanding for over 1 month now.   

And another issue is that the Battery Storage graph reports random spikes of very high amperage, around 12000 amps plus. This causes the graph to automatically adjust to higher scale and makes it unreadable. Very irritating and Hubble cannot seem to be able to fix it, outstanding for over two months.

55 minutes ago, YellowTapemeasure said:

I have the same issue with my 5k Sunsynk. Hubble promised the same functionality for the 5k as with the 8k, but this does not seem to have materialised. I have had Hubble take a look, but they cannot seem to resolve the issue.

Another outstanding issue is the fact that my 3 Hubble batteries charge well until 89%, then it reduces to a trickle charge of about 2-3 amps per battery for 6 to 7 hours. The ticket is outstanding for over 1 month now.   

And another issue is that the Battery Storage graph reports random spikes of very high amperage, around 12000 amps plus. This causes the graph to automatically adjust to higher scale and makes it unreadable. Very irritating and Hubble cannot seem to be able to fix it, outstanding for over two months.

Is your SunSynk direct connected to the battery BMS (Option 1) - Current SunSynk firmware has direct support for Hubble batteries
or indirect connected via RIOT (Option 2)?


image.thumb.png.7cc47ece6eddc8ce919615ec3c378834.png

image.thumb.png.9615d0701a872b3090ed2499d84bd7a8.png

 

Edited by system32

On 2022/10/05 at 7:43 PM, system32 said:

In order to get the RIOT to work you need to connect as follows:image.thumb.png.da8764f668ec06d35cad87161c38ec0d.png

Or (option 2):
image.thumb.png.d6cac23eadd60f1f5381797a48740dc4.png
In the 2nd config, the RIOT acts as/emulates a BMS - it translates the RS232 console to Canbus.
This is not necessary as SunSynk firmware has direct support for Hubble AM-2 via Canbus.
A RIOT is not required at all in a SunSynk / Hubble AM-2 installation.

I've tested both and prefer the first option where the SunSynk is direct connected via canbus to the AM-2 BMS.

NOTE: You need special RS485 cable to get RIOT to communicate with SunSynk (only pins 7 & 8 connected)
Normal Ethernet LAN cables do not seem to work with the RIOT MOD port.
See page 11 of "Cloudlink Setup Guide v4.0.pdf" https://www.hubblelithium.co.za/_files/ugd/c0fc0a_ed19d4bfa78f4873846638e251a62ed4.pdf
image.png

Remember to configure the RIOT:
image.png.13634354a614a3af543902dcf301461c.png

If you have Solar Assistant you can share the SunSynk RS485 modbus port with a splitter.
image.png

I prefer Solar Assistant over RIOT as

  • Solar Assistant allows access to sensor data via MQTT for integration to Home Assistant & Grafana
  • Solar Assistant is local - no cloud required

I've got it set up for option 2.
Why do you prefer it? Is there any difference?


According to Hubble I need to update my original AM2 - that's the Master battery - and that'll fix the error but I need to get the older firmware because the newer one is giving me a Bin Error message.

20 minutes ago, StepbyStep said:

I've got it set up for option 2.
Why do you prefer it? Is there any difference?


According to Hubble I need to update my original AM2 - that's the Master battery - and that'll fix the error but I need to get the older firmware because the newer one is giving me a Bin Error message.

I prefer option 1 as my SunSynk has direct support for Hubble AM-2.
I've tried option 2, but not used it for any length of time.
I did notice some differences in the LiBMS readings.
 

On 2022/10/06 at 5:45 AM, system32 said:

Is your SunSynk direct connected to the battery BMS (Option 1) - Current SunSynk firmware has direct support for Hubble batteries
or indirect connected via RIOT (Option 2)?


image.thumb.png.7cc47ece6eddc8ce919615ec3c378834.png

image.thumb.png.9615d0701a872b3090ed2499d84bd7a8.png

 

Thanks, I tried various configurations, cannot remember the state, I need to check when I am back at that site.

  • 1 year later...

Are you able to connect the Cloudlink to the Hubble AM-2 via the RS485 port on the AM2 if the RS232 port is not available?

Deye 8KW inverter, splitter to link both Solar Assistant and Cloudlink to the inverter. 

Cloudlink power from the Hubble terminals. 

 

  • 2 months later...

Hubble clearly gave up on this product after selling to many unsuspecting buyers. Where do we send this box back to for a refund?

No development in the last year according to their own website and the monitoring site is down. 

23 NOVEMBER 2022

Cloudlink Version 4.5.8

Screenshot at Jan 03 12-14-47.png

last night I could get to the login screen but after logging in got a connection failed error, this morning I could not even get to the site. 

Now I can get to the site again, login goes further sits with spinning wheel thingy for long then it goes in. 

Classifieds next I guess.

 

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