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So is this a Hybrid? Yes No? Is it available in SA Yes No? What does it Cost ? Axpert also makes a 500v Mppt so nothing new but the discussion is really about Batteries 😀 not an Axpert Clone..the Axpert can Do 7.2KW tbh the Axpert has better specs and its cheaper.. koda_Axpert_Max_20200907.pdf

Dumb question what cable thickness are we running there ? Was this installed by a professional installer ? To me that looks like the Standard Pylon 25mm2 Cable and it looks like one set of 4 x US2000 =100Amp constant load max and 4 x US3000=128Amp constant load Max. What size inverter is connected ? Context I bet the Installer installed a 160 AMP Fuse and Fuse Holder and its 160 Amp on the Pos and 160 amp on the neg..? So can any of the Solar Specialists here please tell me what the maximum amp rating for a 25mm2 Battery cable is? Also lets say the cable is 2 meters long with a voltage of 48VDC or what the recommended cable thickness for a Load of 100 amp @ 48v DC that is equal to 4.8KW the continuous load for the 4 x US2000 batteries and the 4 x US3000 Batteries can deliver 128 Amp @ 48v what is the recommended cable thickness for that maximum load which is equal to 6.144 KW ?

See Attached Spec sheet also look at the following link too Riot Cloud Link with Live systems attached https://portal.riotsystems.cloud/dashboard/00bdc590-5810-11eb-adcd-0b75a54149c7?publicId=cc5cf540-5180-11eb-b88a-4bcbe9b8c65e Hubble Lithium AM-2 A4 Pamphlet (2).pdf riot_cloudlink__a4_pamphlet_electronic_fa (1).pdf

look at the spec sheet on the 5.5 KW AM2 Full CAN Comms and it works with the Riot Cloudlink the 4.8 x100 model is more for your Axpert Clone Range

It is relevant the 1C battery will last longer.. 2 x 5.5 KW Hubble batteries can produce 200 amp how many Pylons do you need besides lets refer back to the initial photos....corosion oxidation in a battery barely 2 years old that looks like it was built in a china back street ...no thanks .... you can keep it... and no Pylontech is not as user friendly as most installers want us to believe.. besides the after sales service and support sucks..

Please post pictures of your installation.

Yep I also looked at Victron and it becomes crazy expensive very happy with my Sunsyk I heard of this anomaly thought that such an expensive product wouldve solved overheating with some fans or decent heatsinks I think they call it derating my Sunsynk does not do that... also heard the Easysolar Hybrids by Victron are notoriously unreliable mppts failing and so on Maybe a Victron expert can give us more info on the Derating story and the unreliable Easysolar hybrids.? Would be interresting 😁

I agree better value than most and youre never Blue!!

Thanks each to their own I will not be forced to Use a product just because someone says so 😂 besides I am a Proud Sunsynk Owner 😁

I have seen many Pylontech installs where there are only one set of cables does this mean they are all unsafe?

Yes there has been a lot of information on Hubble and BSLB in this thread thats for sure my point is if people did not talk about it no one would know for instance Pylontech claims its US3000C is a 1C battery when in Actual fact it is not so in my opinion this is false advertising on their part and never mind dishonest. We then have much smaller emerging companies bringing their product to the market like Hubble BSLB Revov etc.. and these guys have to make their product so much better just to compete with established products in the market they also offer far better support and backup than a brand like Pylontech and Dyness as an example besides that are they also offering better value for money Hubble is a Comercial member here as far as I can see and they are offering their product at a great price with great quality so is BSLB with all that said no I dont work for either company and I appreciate the exposure to new products Imagine how boring it would be if everyone only used Victron and Pylontech Axpert and Pylontech never expanding to other ideas and products. I support highlighting bad quality in established products it allows end users like myself to make educated and informed decisions..

I don't get this statement at all is Leshen employed by Hubble? As far as I could see he is comparing facts and specs 😂 I suppose everyone has a right to an opinion even bad ones.. or do people not have the right to compare products especially if it highlights problems is this not the purpouse for the forum and open Dialogue? Or do you believe to do this is not allowed?

Contact Aspergo Energy they are Agents for Dyness

I can't comment on Hoselect... however Averge batteries are known cell phone tower batteries and not a brand you would typically buy over the counter in SA read this..https://m-net.dstv.com/show/carte-blanche/news/do-you-have-a-stolen-deep-cycle-battery/news

Your supplier is trying to take you for a ride... if your budget is tight go with one battery and add another later..

Those Hubble AM2 Batteries look Seriously good!! man!!

Buy at own risk if it says Li Ion tech stay away

I recommend using Hubble 4.8 Kw it will work perfectly and is very well priced.

Now that is a decent battery nice specs!!

According to the warranty documentation its 5 years with a ton of terms and conditions read them here and yes you have to register your battery to get an extended warranty I assume on the US5000 then you will only get 7 years I may be wrong.. Pylontech_product_warranty_UP5000 serie-Standard_2020.pdf

as far as I know Power Forum store has a special on the Hubble AM2 5.5KWH Wall mountable battery for R24700 Vat included you can give them a try

I have no Idea about that all that I see is that they started of with a Bang and now all these rules and regulations Apparently now its only 3000 Cycles @ 80% and a maximum of 360 cycles per year so if you exceed that your warranty is also void can someone confirm this if so then it is shocking!!!

Also Just read this Official Pylontech Warranty Used to be 7 Years... Now 5 Years .... Interesting "2. Product Warranty Pylontech warrants that the Product will be free of defects caused by improper workmanship or defective materials. This warranty commences the period of Five (5) years from the earlier of: 1. the date of installation of the Product; or 2. six (6) months after the date the Product was manufactured, This warranty does not include any accessories and tool kit items provided with the Product. This warranty only covers the repair or replace of a defective Product. Pylontech will repair or replace the Product if the Product is defective and returned during the Warranty Period. The repaired or replaced product will continue the original remaining warranty period. In either case it shall not justify as a renewal of the warranty period.

Truth there unfortunately you need lots of Pylons to avoid that error from occurring or you need to throttle the loads.... never mind the slow recharge rates of the Pylontech batteries..

You mentioned Pylontech however what concerns me more is how shoddy and cheap the battery looks soldering etc not very neat for an Expensive product