August 6, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, JustinSchoeman said: Thanks. 9Nm for M6 seems OKish... Will chat to Bain when I collect, and see if he has any factory specs. Doh... 4Nm is the limit for mild steel M6 screws anyway... So may need to consider upgrading those too.
August 6, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, phil.g00 said: If I am correct the 280Ah cell has a 6mm bolt and the 120/100Ah has a 4mm? Right... the number I spat out is for m8. Winston cells 🙂 57 minutes ago, phil.g00 said: The SADF tiffies believed in vaseline. ( for battery terminals, that is). Yup, I've also used Vaseline on flooded lead acid terminals. It works well. Not sure it will work in this application though, need something with a little copper/zinc in it that improves conductivity while preventing oxidation.
August 6, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, JustinSchoeman said: 2) What is the preferred way of routing the balance wires? a) birds nest (just route directly to the terminals), or b) channeled wire bundles. (a) is a lot simpler, and electrically superior (lowest resistance and lowest noise), but does not look great, and is more susceptible to damage if you ever do need to poke around inside the battery. (b) takes a lot of effort, but looks neat and keeps the wires out of the way, but wires become very long, and long parallel wire runs are very bad for electrical noise. This would be your own preference. If you like things neat, then go with option b) You are constraint with the lengths of the wires, then a) is your only option. If you are going to cover this up in the case and never look at it, then neither will matter. I was constrained by the wire length during my workbench testing, so a) bird nest was my only option But by changing my battery to sit on it's side and moving the BMS a bit I do have to option of b) and as I like things to be neat I will be doing a cleanup there in the near future. My plan is to use small cable ties, so it will be easy to remove if I need to work on something.
August 6, 20205 yr Aarrrgghhh I did not even think of mounting the cells sideways... That makes everything so much easier!
August 6, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, JustinSchoeman said: Doh... 4Nm is the limit for mild steel M6 screws anyway... So may need to consider upgrading those too. I'll add my experience - I had one cell strip it's thread due to a combination of insufficient thread depth and overtorqing. It's an issue if you are paralleling cells, and stacking the links - and another reason I moved to my own DIY'd copper links. I managed to fix it with an insert. Cheers Ian
August 7, 20205 yr Author 20 hours ago, Ian said: I'll add my experience - I had one cell strip it's thread due to a combination of insufficient thread depth and overtorqing. It's an issue if you are paralleling cells, and stacking the links - and another reason I moved to my own DIY'd copper links. I managed to fix it with an insert. Cheers Ian TTT had the same problem. Stripping threads. The bolts that came with batteries isn't the best. There thread cut isn't good. You can actually feel how the bolt move inside the battery pole. That's why i went for 6mm stainless allenkey caps. The tolerance and the pitch on the stainless is way better. Same with the hi ten steel bolts. I got all the tools and bits to re tape this stuff. TTT need to do this now with his ones. The batteries got 6mm thread.
August 7, 20205 yr Maybe these holes are not meant for busbars to be mounted on it. In my understanding they are positioning holes in order to get a nice weld for the busbar adapters. This is what I learned during my search and eventually purchase of LiFePO4 cells. Well, learned... It is what the manufaturer of these cells which is http://www.ecopowerpack.com/ told me. This is what it should look like: Looks way better and there are 2 screwholes per pole. Edited August 7, 20205 yr by RikH
August 7, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, JustinSchoeman said: I am not going nuts??? The black terminal is positive on these cells? Does the lighter terminal look more positivy to you hahahahaha
August 7, 20205 yr Well, more positivvy than black... 😆 I suppose you did not get any feedback on the cell orientation yet?
August 7, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, JustinSchoeman said: Well, more positivvy than black... 😆 I suppose you did not get any feedback on the cell orientation yet? Sent you the answer on WhatsApp.
August 8, 20205 yr On 2020/08/07 at 12:18 PM, Gerlach said: TTT had the same problem. Stripping threads. The bolts that came with batteries isn't the best. There thread cut isn't good. You can actually feel how the bolt move inside the battery pole. That's why i went for 6mm stainless allenkey caps. The tolerance and the pitch on the stainless is way better. Same with the hi ten steel bolts. I got all the tools and bits to re tape this stuff. TTT need to do this now with his ones. The batteries got 6mm thread. In hindsight, using studs and nuts might be the safest option to cover all bases?
August 9, 20205 yr Author 13 hours ago, Ian said: In hindsight, using studs and nuts might be the safest option to cover all bases? Jip. That will be yes. Allen key stud is a good option. There some guys that's doing this.
August 10, 20205 yr That was a looong weekend. Rack ready to bolt in. Lots of bus plates cut, drilled and tapped. Lots of terminal covers printed. Should be able to start assembling tomorrow. Lets hope I don't strip anything...
August 11, 20205 yr Author 12 hours ago, JustinSchoeman said: That was a looong weekend. Rack ready to bolt in. Lots of bus plates cut, drilled and tapped. Lots of terminal covers printed. Should be able to start assembling tomorrow. Lets hope I don't strip anything... Looking good!!! Enjoy the build and take your time.
August 13, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, JustinSchoeman said: (expletive)... Nice big battery + loadshedding + no inverter yet... Bummer. But don't worry: I think you will soon get another chance to test your battery.
August 13, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, Louisvdw said: Bummer. But don't worry: I think you will soon get another chance to test your battery. Always look on the bright side...
August 13, 20205 yr Author 43 minutes ago, JustinSchoeman said: Always look on the bright side... Lekker man!!! Looks good!!! Now to get a lekker inverter and MPPT.
August 13, 20205 yr Yeehaw. Finally found the comms protocol specification, and it is dead simple. I am liking this Daly BMS...
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