Chloe Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 What do you consider as essential items in a Solar Installation? Appart from the obvious( panels, inverter and batteries). Quote
DeepBass9 Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 Distribution board that is properly wired. Many topics on this forum on that subject. Family that can be trained to use appliances when the sun is shining. shanghailoz and Calvin 2 Quote
Tariq Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 Fuses, fuse holders, circuit breakers, general purpose house wire, solar wire, trunking, ps it is a never ending money pit Quote
Chloe Posted September 3, 2020 Author Posted September 3, 2020 I have seen quite a few "professional" installations that don't have battery disconnect swiches or installers using normal housewire instead of solar cable. Quote
Calvin Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, DeepBass9 said: Family that can be trained to use appliances when the sun is shining. The most difficult bit. "For everything else, use Mastercard" Chloe, FixAMess and Rclegg 3 Quote
___ Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Calvin said: "For everything else, use Mastercard" Yeah, I've said something like that too. Problems that you can throw money at are not big problems. I mean, sure, money is always a problem, you never have quite enough for all the things you want to do, but see it this way: The real problems are things you cannot solve with money, for example, a medical condition you'd gladly pay to be treated for... only there is no treatment. Apologies for that dark thought... but perspective and all that Spend the money and make it safe. Quote
Chloe Posted September 4, 2020 Author Posted September 4, 2020 Yes agreed, with lithium batteries a disconnect switch probably is a non essential but with older batteries I've seen way to many sparks fly(or spanners fall on open battery banks) Unless it's a 10 watt panel I wouldn't use hosewire. Quote
Chloe Posted September 4, 2020 Author Posted September 4, 2020 Yes agreed, those are important and also legally required but a lot of installers still don't adhere. That is one of the reasons I started this thread... so people can understand solar panels an inverter and batteries does NOT make a solar system. Quote
Chloe Posted September 19, 2020 Author Posted September 19, 2020 How important is it to earth your solar panels? Quote
Boerseun Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chloe said: How important is it to earth your solar Well that is a good question there are a couple of reasons that is necessary. One reason is for a measure lightning protection so there is a short as possible route for the electrical current from a lightning strike to travel. Electricity always flows to the shortest route. Secondly transformer less high frequency inverters Transformer less inverters require the solar panels on the roof and the framing system they are installed on to be earthed. This is due to the fact that transformer less inverters can potentially allow some AC voltage to the DC side (the solar panel side) of the solar power system with respect to ground. If the solar panels and the solar panel mounting system are not correctly earthed they could potentially give an electric shock if touched. Chloe 1 Quote
ChristoSnake Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Boerseun said: Secondly transformer less high frequency inverters Transformer less inverters require the solar panels on the roof and the framing system they are installed on to be earthed. This is due to the fact that transformer less inverters can potentially allow some AC voltage to the DC side (the solar panel side) of the solar power system with respect to ground. If the solar panels and the solar panel mounting system are not correctly earthed they could potentially give an electric shock if touched. I presume it is still best practice to earth your panels, even with a low frequency inverter where there may not be AC present on the PV side? I can just see how an insurer would jump at that to refuse a lightning-related claim... Quote
Boerseun Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 17 hours ago, ChristoSnake said: I presume it is still best practice to earth your panels, even with a low frequency inverter where there may not be AC present on the PV side? I can just see how an insurer would jump at that to refuse a lightning-related claim... Indeed if your solar array is not earthed and installed correctly using spd and fuses besides properly earthed solar arrays will have a measure of protection against lightning and the risk of destroying your expensive inverter and batteries are also reduced. Insurance companies will not pay your claim sadly many so called professional installers do not bother to earth solar arrays or even install fuses and spd devices between the panels and the Mppts also they neglect to install fuses between the batteries and the inverter. The client suffers the damages at the end of the day.. Quote
Chloe Posted September 20, 2020 Author Posted September 20, 2020 So it's very important to always make sure your panels are earthed if not for insurance purposes for safety reasons. I would not be impressed if my very expensive inverter goes up in flames because of someone taking shortcuts. Quote
PhilFM Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 A PV combiner box like the one attached is also a good idea. This one is for 4 strings with breaker, earth and fuses. Works a charm Quote
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