November 4, 20232 yr Got the same quote from Candice. They do allow pickuo at their Spartan, Kempton Park depot. I am wondering if these BMSs support can comms to the inverters. Since they mention "supported inverters". Edited November 10, 20232 yr by Pho3niX90
November 4, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, Pho3niX90 said: Got the same quote from Candice. They do allow pickuo at their Spartan, Kempton Park depot. I am wondering if these BMSs support can comms to the inverters. Since they mention "supported inverters". Yes it does
November 4, 20232 yr Author 6 hours ago, Pho3niX90 said: Got the same quote from Candice. They do allow pickuo at their Spartan, Kempton Park depot. I am wondering if these BMSs support can comms to the inverters. Since they mention "supported inverters". I got cells from Apexium and BMS from seplos. This Apexium BMS looks identical to my seplos. CAN comms work perfectly fine with my Solis s6 which I think is what you have. The BMS is working better than expected and I'm getting much better balancing than the YouTuber - off grid garage. My cells have a 3-10mv voltage variation at all times. Quite impressive.
November 4, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, cp69 said: I got cells from Apexium and BMS from seplos. This Apexium BMS looks identical to my seplos. CAN comms work perfectly fine with my Solis s6 which I think is what you have. The BMS is working better than expected and I'm getting much better balancing than the YouTuber - off grid garage. My cells have a 3-10mv voltage variation at all times. Quite impressive. This is good news, you are right. Exactly what I needed to hear. So at this stage I see no cons, only pros going this route.
November 4, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Pho3niX90 said: This is good news, you are right. Exactly what I needed to hear. So at this stage I see no cons, only pros going this route. Here's the manual to their BMS Apex BMS 48V200A-compressed.pdf
November 4, 20232 yr On 2023/11/03 at 10:51 AM, Greglsh said: Hi Jeeva I got a quote for the 16 x 280AH cells + Apexium DIY Box and cables from battery to inverter was $2070 then shipping was quoted $360 (not sure why so much), then $100 transaction fee??? I think the shipping is to much unless it is because of the DIY box?? What do you guys use if you don't get the DIY box? So is the quote I received a good price, I still wonder about the shipping charge as other have it for about half that?
November 4, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Greglsh said: So is the quote I received a good price, I still wonder about the shipping charge as other have it for about half that? Even with that delivery and service fee, that still works out to about R17k per 100AH, way cheaper than buying a ready built battery
November 4, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Greglsh said: So is the quote I received a good price, I still wonder about the shipping charge as other have it for about half that? You can pickup yourself as well, or arrange your own courier. The expensive shipping largely comes down the the kgs, as this is probably around 100-130kgs
November 5, 20232 yr This quote does not include the courier to Durban, so I would still have to add that. This shipping is the cost to get it "to" JHB warehouse as far as I am aware.
November 5, 20232 yr 46 minutes ago, Greglsh said: This quote does not include the courier to Durban, so I would still have to add that. This shipping is the cost to get it "to" JHB warehouse as far as I am aware. Still worth it even if you add and extra R2k for local delivery. Still works out way cheaper than pre-built
November 6, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, Greglsh said: This quote does not include the courier to Durban, so I would still have to add that. This shipping is the cost to get it "to" JHB warehouse as far as I am aware. The quote is to you, I would assume, on my quote there are no delivery charges since I opted for pickup. Their stock is already in their JHB warehouse
November 6, 20232 yr On 2023/11/03 at 3:53 PM, Dv8 said: Is this quote from Candice ? Yes, received my 16x280AH batteries + BMS this morning. The "shipping" on their quote, is from China to Kempton park, that they are factoring in at a bulk rate. Which is a fraction of when you want to import it directly. My Last quote for self-shipping from China worked out more than the batteries itself. Ordered & Paid: 27th October, took a week to be cleared by FNB/SWIFT (3rd November). Ready for collection: Friday the 3rd November. Got a quote from Courier Guy at 9 AM and accepted. They collected at 10:30AM. (R770) + R30 000 insurance (R700), so ~R1470 for delivery from Kempton Park to Cape Town. Delivered: 6th November (Bellville) @ 08:00 AM Haven't tested them, but from inspection they all look 100%. No swelling, fall damage, etc. Also very thoroughly packed and stuffed. Total Cost: Around ~R35 000 (BMS + 16x280AH cells + Forex R/$ + FNB fees. At the time FNB calculated me at R19.01 per 1USD ) Edited November 6, 20232 yr by jeeva
November 6, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, Pho3niX90 said: The quote is to you, I would assume, on my quote there are no delivery charges since I opted for pickup. Their stock is already in their JHB warehouse I never gave them an address. I just asked for a quote?
November 6, 20232 yr Hi Gents. You could try a bulk/group buy to save costs. We have an thread for that. Sincerely Jason
November 6, 20232 yr 58 minutes ago, jeeva said: Yes, received my 16x280AH batteries + BMS this morning. The "shipping" on their quote, is from China to Kempton park, that they are factoring in at a bulk rate. Which is a fraction of when you want to import it directly. My Last quote for self-shipping from China worked out more than the batteries itself. Ordered & Paid: 27th October, took a week to be cleared by FNB/SWIFT (3rd November). Ready for collection: Friday the 3rd November. Got a quote from Courier Guy at 9 AM and accepted. They collected at 10:30AM. (R770) + R30 000 insurance (R700), so ~R1470 for delivery from Kempton Park to Cape Town. Delivered: 6th November (Bellville) @ 08:00 AM Haven't tested them, but from inspection they all look 100%. No swelling, fall damage, etc. Also very thoroughly packed and stuffed. Total Cost: Around ~R35 000 (BMS + 16x280AH cells + Forex R/$ + FNB fees. At the time FNB calculated me at R19.01 per 1USD ) Nice are you going to do your own box?
November 6, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, Energy-Jason said: Hi Gents. You could try a bulk/group buy to save costs. We have an thread for that. Sincerely Jason Group buy for cells and diy kits?
November 6, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Dv8 said: Group buy for cells and diy kits? Sure. Order in bulk from the manufacturer for everyone that is interested. For those who have ordered already find the best shipping methods. Sincerely Jason
November 6, 20232 yr On 2023/11/06 at 10:17 AM, Energy-Jason said: Sure. Order in bulk from the manufacturer for everyone that is interested. For those who have ordered already find the best shipping methods. Sincerely Jason Bulk buy is a good idea. This was my quote. Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Pho3niX90
November 7, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, Pho3niX90 said: Bulk buy is a good idea. This was my quote. Invoice - Shaun Jansen Van Nieuwenhuizen (1).pdf 44.34 kB · 9 downloads Lol, i asked candice now, why they billed me $80 for shipping, but $0 for you. Update: She told me she factors the shipping cost into the cell price now +$5, because too many people were asking her about shipping costs. (China to Kempton Park) Edited November 7, 20232 yr by jeeva
November 7, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, jeeva said: Lol, i asked candice now, why they billed me $80 for shipping, but $0 for you. Update: She told me she factors the shipping cost into the cell price now +$5, because too many people were asking her about shipping costs. (China to Kempton Park) I was quoted $360 dollars shipping on 16 x 280AH and a 280 DIY BOX I also think maybe a group by might be a good idea.
November 7, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, Greglsh said: I was quoted $360 dollars shipping on 16 x 280AH and a 280 DIY BOX I also think maybe a group by might be a good idea. I will be happy to get a quote for shipping with our freight forwarders at their cost. I will be happy to do this for the forum members. I am very fluent with the process. Sincerely Jason
November 7, 20232 yr On 2023/10/26 at 10:03 AM, WannabeSolarSparky said: Yes, for DIY definitely a good idea to full top balance and absorb fully. That will then allow the bms to work nicely. Why 8 at a time, you can connect all 16 in parallel to do the top balancing in one go. Wanted to ask if this power supply would be okay for top balancing either 4 or 8 cells at a time, I know it will take forever but the higher current power supplies are so expensive for maybe a once off use device. Looking at the the 32v 10 amp version. https://www.banggood.com/WANPTEK-Regulated-Power-Supply-with-0-160V-Voltage-0-10A-Current-Multi-Function-Protection-Superior-Stability-Digital-Display-ideal-for-Diverse-Electronics-Application-EPS3205-or-EPS3210-or-EPS6205-or-EPS1203-or-EPS1602-p-2001911.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=6324723&rmmds=search Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Greglsh
November 7, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Greglsh said: Wanted to ask if this power supply would be okay for top balancing either 4 or 8 cells at a time, I know it will take forever but the higher current power supplies are so expensive for maybe a once off use device. Looking at the the 32v 10 amp version. https://www.banggood.com/WANPTEK-Regulated-Power-Supply-with-0-160V-Voltage-0-10A-Current-Multi-Function-Protection-Superior-Stability-Digital-Display-ideal-for-Diverse-Electronics-Application-EPS3205-or-EPS3210-or-EPS6205-or-EPS1203-or-EPS1602-p-2001911.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=6324723&rmmds=search R100 extra for the 60V version Sometimes buying china can be painful and can take a while to get here. https://www.robotics.org.za/SPS-E305?search=Power Supply They often get in stock of the more fancy ones, just ask them about stock https://www.robotics.org.za/index.php?route=product/search&search=Power Supply
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