Peter Topp Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) I started by purchasing Chromecast devices all 3 tv's in my home. This was followed by adding 4 google home devices to the house. 1 in the living room, 2 in the bedrooms and 1 in the kitchen. This allowed me to listen any music I liked in the rooms and various other functions. Just before December 2019 I purchased 2wifi RGB smart bulbs for Xmas effects in my living room. I liked the effects and was also chuffed that all of this was voice controlled as the devices were Google Home compatible. I also have a Paradox wireless security alarm, a DVR with 8x outside and 4x inside security cameras all which can be controlled or seen from an app's on my phone. 3 x inside camera's can remotely be adjusted horizontally and vertically with voice control to and from the camera's. My next step was look into other home automation devices. I also did not want to use a lot of different apps on my phone to control the devices.I chose to go with Sonoff and Eachen devices wich use the same phone app and are compatible with Amazon Alexa and Google Home.These devices are relatively inexpensive and easy to install. I installed 4 x single gang and 2 x double gang WI-Fi touch wall light switches from Eachen as these light switches do not need a neutral, however a capacitor which is supplied needs to be connected at the light. I also installed single Sonoff Wi-Fi switches to my garage door, gate motor, electric fence, irrigation, lounge light, side light and xbox one. I still need to connect 2 x 4 gang light switches my lounge and dinning room lights however I cannot find 4 gang switches that do not use a neutral so I will have to wait for them to become available. These switches are all compatible with Google Home so they all can be voice activated and from the Google Home and eWeLink app. These devices can also be controlled from anywhere in the world where there is a Wi-Fi connection available. I no longer have get up or get out of bed to switch the lights on or off. There are however some drawbacks. If there is no Wi-Fi (load shedding) for the switches you will have to switch them on manually if they are connected in series.This can be overcome buy purchasing remote control devices that work from a hub, that still work even when Wi-fi is not available. I am sure it also affects the Wi-Fi as the devices are permanently connected to Wi-Fi. I also see a difference when downloading Xbox which is also connected to Wi-Fi (downloading is erratic). I will change this to a lan cable. If you are purchasing smart Wi-Fi lights be sure to check if they are bright enough and the colour (warm or cool white) . Some can do both. Switches need to be in Wi-Fi range and I had to install some externally (electric fence and garage door) as the housings blocked the Wi-Fi signal. At least I now have something that listens to me and does what I want when I want. It is just unfortunate I can't automate my wife to do what I want when I want without any backchat. HAHA Edited January 29, 2020 by Peter Topp spelling Energy-Jason, SYC and Baksteen 2 1 Quote
Bobster. Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 19 hours ago, Peter Topp said: I started by purchasing Chromecast devices all 3 tv's in my home. This was followed by adding 4 google home devices to the house. 1 in the living room, 2 in the bedrooms and 1 in the kitchen. This allowed me to listen any music I liked in the rooms and various other functions. Just before December 2019 I purchased 2wifi RGB smart bulbs for Xmas effects in my living room. I liked the effects and was also chuffed that all of this was voice controlled as the devices were Google Home compatible. I also have a Paradox wireless security alarm, a DVR with 8x outside and 4x inside security cameras all which can be controlled or seen from an app's on my phone. 3 x inside camera's can remotely be adjusted horizontally and vertically with voice control to and from the camera's. My next step was look into other home automation devices. I also did not want to use a lot of different apps on my phone to control the devices.I chose to go with Sonoff and Eachen devices wich use the same phone app and are compatible with Amazon Alexa and Google Home.These devices are relatively inexpensive and easy to install. I installed 4 x single gang and 2 x double gang WI-Fi touch wall light switches from Eachen as these light switches do not need a neutral, however a capacitor which is supplied needs to be connected at the light. I also installed single Sonoff Wi-Fi switches to my garage door, gate motor, electric fence, irrigation, lounge light, side light and xbox one. I still need to connect 2 x 4 gang light switches my lounge and dinning room lights however I cannot find 4 gang switches that do not use a neutral so I will have to wait for them to become available. These switches are all compatible with Google Home so they all can be voice activated and from the Google Home and eWeLink app. These devices can also be controlled from anywhere in the world where there is a Wi-Fi connection available. I no longer have get up or get out of bed to switch the lights on or off. There are however some drawbacks. If there is no Wi-Fi (load shedding) for the switches you will have to switch them on manually if they are connected in series.This can be overcome buy purchasing remote control devices that work from a hub, that still work even when Wi-fi is not available. I am sure it also affects the Wi-Fi as the devices are permanently connected to Wi-Fi. I also see a difference when downloading Xbox which is also connected to Wi-Fi (downloading is erratic). I will change this to a lan cable. If you are purchasing smart Wi-Fi lights be sure to check if they are bright enough and the colour (warm or cool white) . Some can do both. Switches need to be in Wi-Fi range and I had to install some externally (electric fence and garage door) as the housings blocked the Wi-Fi signal. Thanks for this. I am encouraged. I've been thinking of home automation recently. I can see the usefulness of turning lights and other devices on or off remotely. I need to do some googling to truly understand what works together, but you have given some good initial information and, as I said, some encouragement. Quote
viceroy Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I too have started down this road. Bought a few Sonoff smart switches at the beginning of the year. I want to install them on the fridges and freezers, so they can turn off between 10pm and 6am in order to save power. I may also flash them, and get the ICC power management module so they can also power off devices when batteries get too low etc. Haven't quite gotten to Google home devices throughout the house, or light switches and bulbs, but it will come. Quote
Peter Topp Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 Hi Calypso The Home Assistant is in another league and is certainly not DIY and would beyond the reach of most home owners budget and needs to be installed by professionals. Other than the sound and video and a fancy Media room and control panel the switches I used all have the ability to be set at any time to be turned on and or off and the system has the ability to add alarms, cameras , blind openers, temp and humidity monitors etc. So I would safely say it is DIY Home Automation. It is really automation. Quote
Peter Topp Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 After doing more research I see there is another home assistant that is not commercially sold and it is for the DIY. The switches can all be integrated into this system. I can be run from a local server or a Raspberry Pi. I will be looking further into this. The Home Assistant in my previous post was a system that is commercially sold and professionally installed. Quote
PaulF007 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Another option that is worth a look is Openhabian - it is also well supported. I whent full automation about three years ago and sofar Openhab has treated me well. This is what my layout looks like : Tim003 and An3s. 2 Quote
Gabriell Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Now that is an IMPRESSIVE Opehab setup!!! Quote
Gabriell Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 @PaulF007 What platform are you running it on, PC or PI? If PC what Operating system? Quote
PaulF007 Posted February 21, 2020 Posted February 21, 2020 @Gabriell I am running on Rpi with Openhabian Image. Much easier plug and play solution as I just need to make a copy of the SD image. Also power consumption ( witch was a large deciding factor) is quite low in comparison. Quote
werries Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 @PaulF007 Quite an impressive setup! just reading through what you got controlled there is inspiring me to do something similar! Control via Wifi? Was trying to find out if there are local suppliers for zigbee or some other wireless home automation (I am a bit protective of my wifi band width). Quote
PaulF007 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 20 hours ago, werries said: @PaulF007 Quite an impressive setup! just reading through what you got controlled there is inspiring me to do something similar! Control via Wifi? Was trying to find out if there are local suppliers for zigbee or some other wireless home automation (I am a bit protective of my wifi band width). One way to go is SonOff - now a days you get quite a lot of options and they have even made an API for the firmware. Personally I have a couple of SonOff running Tasmota at difficult to reach places. But the bulk of my system is running on Arduino Programs that I wrote with MQTT as my backbone. I use Openhab only as the front interface and in theory I can control the system through any MQTT interface. This makes things much more "universal". Every thing is running on a R-pi. Quote
___ Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, PaulF007 said: Every thing is running on a R-pi. I've considered doing the same, but with a Beaglebone instead (something with eMMC). I currently run hass on a Pi (quick and easy), but I've already had to redo the whole setup because the sdcard went bad... and I feel like it is just a matter of time before it does it again. One day when I have time to kill... Quote
root Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, plonkster said: I've considered doing the same, but with a Beaglebone instead (something with eMMC). I currently run hass on a Pi (quick and easy), but I've already had to redo the whole setup because the sdcard went bad... and I feel like it is just a matter of time before it does it again. One day when I have time to kill... I've started moving my Pi based systems over to AtomicPi. Form factor is a little larger, cost is about the same but the key difference is it has eMMC and can boot from USB. I have a few first gen NVME drives lying around and they go into usb3.1 enclosures beautifully. No more dead SD cards. Nice big passive heatsink on top. Quote
PaulF007 Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, plonkster said: I've considered doing the same, but with a Beaglebone instead (something with eMMC). I currently run hass on a Pi (quick and easy), but I've already had to redo the whole setup because the sdcard went bad... and I feel like it is just a matter of time before it does it again. One day when I have time to kill... I would assume that Hassio also have a config file with all the necessary settings. So i have a small script running that will back up the config and node red files once a week to Dropbox as these are the ones that gets changed from time to time. Regarding the base OS I have a Full image backup on a hard drive with an extra SD next to the pi.Should it go belly up I can just swap the images. Update the config file to the latest and away we go. Three years later , touch wood , I have not had any problems --- yet --- . Although I am waiting for the Pi 4 os to get to the stage that it will boot negatively from a SSD. There are already a couple of workarounds to do this but Ill wait a little bit longer. There is also a project that is quite interesting to have a look at , IOTstact by Graham. He's a local and has done a tremendous amount of work. Also the place I got the Droobox script. Go have a look , well worth the 30 sec Quote
___ Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 5 hours ago, PaulF007 said: back up the config We don't need no steenkin backups... This container stuff is rather interesting, I've actually wondered if it would be possible to stick Venus into a container. You'd have to punch a few holes so Venus can see the /dev of the host (or at least patch through all /dev/ttyUSB* and /dev/ttyAMA* devices), and it would be headless... but it's an intriguing idea (and it would mean we no longer have to build Debian packages for some Venus bits). I'm just not quite certain how easy it would be to take the rootfs of an OpenEmbedded build and change it into a docker image. Quote
Tim Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 I love my Home Assistant install (running on an old laptop with docker) and have it linked to my Victron setup via colour GX - automations linked to solar are simple at the moment related to when I have excess solar - like linking battery and solar status to geysor status (turns on in day if battery is full). But once grid tied (hopefully in 2 weeks time) I internd to use it to controll the charge cycles from the grid to minimise/eliminate municipal bill (in PE you can use the grid like a big battery as long as you consume in same time of use period as credit is generated). Battery will get me though the Peak periods in evening and morining. Intend to have a toggle for when there is loadshedding which will make sure the battery keeps about a certain percentage - have thought of pulling in the schedule but not sure I have the skills for that Here is a snap shot of live info on my dashboard at about 12:00noon (3kw is being wasted as it has no where to go) - at moment Geyser and dehumidifier are on because of following conditions, Grid setpoint is 200W: a) Battery > 95% b) Family is in town (device tracking) c) Daylight hours dvdwalt, JTUBB and PaulF007 3 Quote
Mark2 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I'm also a big fan of home assistant. This is my dashboard for my Axpert MKS II. I have a raspberry pi connected to it with bidirectional MQTT to my home assistant server. The server used to be just a pi 3 but it started getting a bit sluggish with all the data points. I've since migrated to an old 4th gen i3 with a cheap SSD I've done some other stuff as well if you guys are interested to see. Also have 3d animations working but still working on a full detailed rendering of the house before I integrate it fully. Edited March 12, 2020 by @Mark Sonoff Africa, francois, JTUBB and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Denarius Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 On 2020/03/12 at 3:34 PM, @Mark said: I'm also a big fan of home assistant. This is my dashboard for my Axpert MKS II. I have a raspberry pi connected to it with bidirectional MQTT to my home assistant server. The server used to be just a pi 3 but it started getting a bit sluggish with all the data points. I've since migrated to an old 4th gen i3 with a cheap SSD I've done some other stuff as well if you guys are interested to see. Also have 3d animations working but still working on a full detailed rendering of the house before I integrate it fully. How did you do the 2 way MQTT communication with axpert inverter? Is it available on github somewhere? Quote
francois Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 On 2020/03/12 at 3:34 PM, @Mark said: I'm also a big fan of home assistant. This is my dashboard for my Axpert MKS II. I have a raspberry pi connected to it with bidirectional MQTT to my home assistant server. The server used to be just a pi 3 but it started getting a bit sluggish with all the data points. I've since migrated to an old 4th gen i3 with a cheap SSD I've done some other stuff as well if you guys are interested to see. Also have 3d animations working but still working on a full detailed rendering of the house before I integrate it fully. Impressive! Mine doesn't look anything like that. Please show us the other stuff too! Quote
Jatho Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 I've also been running Home Assistant and love it, I've got quite a lot of automations and things hooked up but have recently started putting quite an effort into automating more, some of my examples. Warning me if garage door is open after I leave or if it is opened between 10pm and 6am Monitoring for mains failure which I'll later use to turn off plugs for kettles, toasters etc... when I have installed an inverter so that I can ensure we're not smoking the thing Monitoring if doors are not locked Warning if water tank levels are critically low (or high) Monitoring water flow / usage Switching pool on and off Switching lights on based on ambient conditions Turning fans on based on temperature and so on... I have mostly sonoff's, nodemcu's with ESPhome, TP-LINK and Tuya lightbulbs and will soon get some Shelly dimmers. francois and PaulF007 2 Quote
francois Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 That looks amazing @pauljatho Love the dark theme. Quote
Jatho Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, francois said: That looks amazing @pauljatho Love the dark theme. Thanks, yeah I prefer the dark themes. Quote
francois Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, pauljatho said: Thanks, yeah I prefer the dark themes. Running on a Raspberry Pi? I found the Pi to be slow and HA would often crash. Changed over to a virtual machine on Windows PC which seems to be doing better. Quote
Mark2 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 @Pierre I used a mix of https://github.com/ned-kelly/docker-voltronic-homeassistant and the original https://github.com/manio/skymax-demo that ned-kelly based his on. I added a few things and recompiled it but nothing major. Some things were missing like PV watts when I grabbed it a few months ago Most of my dashboard was insipred by his example but I've added a few things from grafana, PV watts, PV vs Load etc and automatically updating the drop downlist order based on live setting. ( ie if you change it manually on the inverter the dropdown list will update and show the real configured value as selected a few seconds later) The only problem is payloads on low speed USB need to be broken up into 8 bytes chunks so currently this is limited to 5 character commands ( 5chars +2 CRC +1 CR = 8bytes ) So commands like POP00 work 100% but ones like PBFTxx.x ( float voltage ) are hit and miss. This problem doesnt exist if you're using a normal RS232 serial port but not much actually have these anymore. A friend of mine has started writing new one from scratch in C# and has gotten the 8byte chunks and CRCs working perfectly with the ability to rapidly poll the inverter. He is also working on mqtt autodiscovery for home assitant. The goal is to be able to view all readings and manage every possible setting via home assistant as you would via watchpower In the mean time I have been using a python script to run commands > 8bytes manually as needed for now until his project is finished. The python serial library seems to handle this transparently in the background. If his project takes too long I may find the motivation to trim the the MPP python script down and push values from mosquttio_sub to it to do temperature controlled charge/float voltages from home assistant... francois 1 Quote
Jatho Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, francois said: Running on a Raspberry Pi? I found the Pi to be slow and HA would often crash. Changed over to a virtual machine on Windows PC which seems to be doing better. I started off on a Pi but then when I realised that I was going to move from a "test" environment to live and given that it controls most of my house I didn't want to risk running it on a Pi and SD card so I moved over to an Intel NUC I7 also running as a VM (Proxmox), big performance boost and solid hardware. I've automated backups to my Google drive so its a pretty reliable setup. francois 1 Quote
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