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Hubble Lithium Battery AM-2 5.5kWh

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10 minutes ago, Terminal3k said:

Im currently using AGM-V becuase of the SOC issue.

Im planning on buying SA with the RS232 cable. If I do buy it, can you share the firmware update? Im currently using solarman app

Can I do the update with just the RS232 cable and NO rasberry pie?

Sorry, I don't have the firmware 😞
Still waiting patiently for Hubble support to confirm if the SoC problem resolved and to either upgrade my AM-2 firmware via RIOT or send me the firmware.

AFAIK, you need a USB/RS232/RJ10 cable + laptop.
You can make your own USB/RS232/RJ10 cable as documented elsewhere.

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    I am noticing a trend here on the posts and I find it concerning borders on Product bashing.  It maybe due to lack of Knowledge or lack of understanding how lithium batteries work. The reaso

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    Hi all .Just an update on the Hubble issues you have been experiencing I have been in talks with Hubble Senior Engineer and these are some Highlights of our discussion. 1. All firmware updates an

  • Update time.  Over the past week I've done a lot of monitoring and calculations to determine my capacity and to track down where the problem lies with my pack. The original problem I experienced

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Good morning.

 

Has this SOC issue with the Hubble AM2 batteries been fixed? Is it only related to a certain batch of batteries?

I am planning to get a Sunsynk 8kw + 2 AM2 Hubbles, but a bit concerned seeing the issues in this thread.

I am ready to order the batteries to link with the Sunsynk 5 KVA unit. 

Do I purchase the 5.XKWH  Hubble or Sunsynk batteries or what would you suggest. My concern is support, availability ands compatibility?

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Leonb said:

Good morning.

 

Has this SOC issue with the Hubble AM2 batteries been fixed? Is it only related to a certain batch of batteries?

I am planning to get a Sunsynk 8kw + 2 AM2 Hubbles, but a bit concerned seeing the issues in 

i have moment, doesnt seem to have the issues, one is a Jan 2022 and the other feb 2022 batch? SOH 100% at the a 8kw Deye, and 2 x AW2.

My AM2 is from August 2021.  Only started to trouble me in March 2022.  

I would not recommend the AM2 as Hubble have no interest in solving the problems. 

Just now, JayN said:

My AM2 is from August 2021.  Only started to trouble me in March 2022.  

I would not recommend the AM2 as Hubble have no interest in solving the problems. 

What does your installer have to say about this 

He has updated the software juts two weeks ago.  He is monitoring the capacity, but I can tell that the battery can only hokd 2.2kwh of charge.

He has also troubleshooted using the AGM settings.

I will give it another week before a warranty claim is submitted.

3 hours ago, JayN said:

I would not recommend the AM2 as a battery.  Support has been really poor.

@JayN Joh you are brave! :) 

I did this and was banned from posting for a month and received 5 permanent warning points. Apparently one cant post your true experiences  if it goes against a certain shop and the admins pushing a product.

 

💣

This is my experience and I have contacted Hubble directly.  If I get banned for posting my honest opinion and experience then the forum is pointless.

I challenge Hubble to come and test my battery at my home and prove otherwise, and I will retract my recommendation.

23 minutes ago, JayN said:

This is my experience and I have contacted Hubble directly.  If I get banned for posting my honest opinion and experience then the forum is pointless.

I challenge Hubble to come and test my battery at my home and prove otherwise, and I will retract my recommendation.

Are you still getting 2.2kwh even on AGM V setting?

4 hours ago, Leshen said:

What does your installer have to say about this 

 

25 minutes ago, Energy-Jason said:

Hi All.

No one will get banned for expressing their feelings cordially.

Sincerely

Jason

Thanks Jason,

This is the right approach.

2 minutes ago, JayN said:

Yes ...

 

Then your installer should send it in for testing and if there is a cell issue then Hubble will swap it out for a new battery. No need to wait if it’s determined that it’s output is only 2.2kwh
 

 

Like @YellowTapemeasure my 2x Hubbles have served me well. I feel for those with issues, but I treat my "twins" harshly during load-shedding when I know power should restore. The wife continues with the electric oven, and kettle too. Once load-shedding is over, I then treat the "twins" gently with a 40A recharge via Mains AC. If we are having a multiple day power outage, I ramp up the charge Amps for solar charging. So far the batteries and Inverter are a pleasure to have in these times of power failures. Below is the state of the batteries, as they have just charged after a bout of load-shedding.

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3 minutes ago, TimCam said:

Like @YellowTapemeasure my 2x Hubbles have served me well. I feel for those with issues, but I treat my "twins" harshly during load-shedding when I know power should restore. The wife continues with the electric oven, and kettle too. Once load-shedding is over, I then treat the "twins" gently with a 40A recharge via Mains AC. If we are having a multiple day power outage, I ramp up the charge Amps for solar charging. So far the batteries and Inverter are a pleasure to have in these times of power failures. Below is the state of the batteries, as they have just charged after a bout of load-shedding.

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Is this solar assistant?

2 hours ago, Leshen said:

Then your installer should send it in for testing and if there is a cell issue then Hubble will swap it out for a new battery. No need to wait if it’s determined that it’s output is only 2.2kwh
 

 

Will do this as soon as we are out of loadshedding ...

1 hour ago, TimCam said:

Like @YellowTapemeasure my 2x Hubbles have served me well. I feel for those with issues, but I treat my "twins" harshly during load-shedding when I know power should restore. The wife continues with the electric oven, and kettle too. Once load-shedding is over, I then treat the "twins" gently with a 40A recharge via Mains AC. If we are having a multiple day power outage, I ramp up the charge Amps for solar charging. So far the batteries and Inverter are a pleasure to have in these times of power failures. Below is the state of the batteries, as they have just charged after a bout of load-shedding.

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Just like yours, my single Hubble has had zero issue and still has it's 110Ah after 266 cycles.
Usually at between 30 and 40% in the morning before Solar recharge starts. This morning it was down to 28%. 
No grid connection here. This snip is now at near 22:00
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55 minutes ago, zsde said:

Usually at between 30 and 40% in the morning before Solar recharge starts. This morning it was down to 28%. 
No grid connection here. This snip is now at near 22:00

I have sometimes set the shutdown percentage to 10%, but have never reached this low, as the sun comes to the rescue, or power is restored. The lowest the batteries have gone too, that I can remember is 21%.

I see your night usage is very "efficient" at 206W. :)👍

 

31 minutes ago, TimCam said:

I have sometimes set the shutdown percentage to 10%, but have never reached this low, as the sun comes to the rescue, or power is restored. The lowest the batteries have gone too, that I can remember is 21%.

I see your night usage is very "efficient" at 206W. :)👍

 

It drops even lower after bed time :)  
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As I haven't bought anything yet, I need to avoid costly mistakes or endless hassles.

So I had a quick call with Hubble technical support yesterday about the Hubble/Sunsynk "issues". I dont know what level of tech support the guys was, but it was not a very confidence inspiring call....

According to him there is a definite communication issue between the Sunsynk and Hubble AM2 battery, and you need to run the RIOT Cloudlink if you want to pair the Sunsynk inverter and Hubble battery. 

He also advised me, since I haven't bought an inverter yet, to rather get a Kodak or Victron ... ?

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On 2022/04/16 at 4:50 PM, system32 said:

Anyone use a "KG140F coulometer display & logger" to monitor & measure an AM-2 battery?
http://www.junteks.com/
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I've just installed a KG140F.
Wrote a python script to log the data to mqtt.
Looking forward to seeing the results soon.

AFAIK, the Victron Smart Shunt is similar (may need a Cerbo GX to log the data)
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In my case I'm seeing ~18% difference between AM-2 BMS SoC and SunSync AGM/V SoC calculation.
The SunSync SoC calculation is confirmed by the Juntek SoC/Ah readings.

If I use the AM-2 BMS SoC, the inverter stops drawing battery at 20% (horizontal).
Using AGM-V helps.

I've updated my call with Hubble support.

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